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Message Archive: Messages 1601 - 16501650. Reinsch/Kolzer family, 21 November, 2006 - I had received an e mail from Angelika Owen nee Schwarz (the grandchild of Agnes Reinsch) with a photo of Albert Reinsch and Caroline Kolzer and their children: Selma, Agnes, Lily, Else, Albert and Scheng Reinsch, some of the childrens name is missing??? - if you have some informations - jetgold@webspeed.dk. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1649. GREQ Quartet, Greece quartet, the 4 Greece, 21 November, 2006 - I have a copy of photo taken by Ed. Lintz, Düsseldorf, Germany - of Greq Quartet - the 4 beautiful girls: Eline, Mine, Clara (Klierdaya) and Angeline Goldkette, daughters of Louis Goldkette and Jeanette Goudsmit - and a copy of the 4 girls Autograph, Metz 1895 - and a copy of their Engagement absolves, GREECE - informations about Greq guartet engagement in maybe Patras or another city in Greece around 1890-1895 - Angeline Goldkette got the son John Jean Goldkette 1893 Patras, Greece and the rumors says that the father was the prince Konstantin of Greece later king Konstantin - the most of these family Goldkette later emigrated to USA - If anybody have informations about the Greq quartet (the 4 Greece) - jetgold@webspeed.dk. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1648. Hartford 1944 Fire, 20 November, 2006 - Wanted: For continued research into the Hartford 1944 Circus Fire story, copies of White Tops and NY Clipper, for the period immediately following the July 6, 1944 conflagration, and for the next several years thereafter. Gary C. Payne, ptgcp@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1647. RBBB poster Terrell Jacobs, 20 November, 2006 - I am writing to you in regards to a Ringling and Barnum & Bailey poster with is on the side of an old building which is going to be torn down. The poster is covered over and we are unsure of the condition of it. We do have a picture of it. The picture is of Terrell Jacobs "Earth's foremost trainer of savage wild beasts. The worlds first and only group of performing Black Leopards." Looking for some information on the poster regarding history. Hoping you can help us out. Thank You, Noxen Sportsmans Club. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1646. Partridge & Lewis Circus, Canada, 19 November, 2006 - Looking for confirmation that the Partridge & Lewis Circus existed. Said to have been at Hamilton, Ontario, probably before 1885 or circa 1887. May have originated in Hamilton. Also looking for the full names of the owners of this circus. Charles E. "Ed" Kohl, of circus and vaudeville fame, married Caroline, the daughter of Lewis. Before she married Kohl, Caroline was an equestrienne with her father's show. At least one of her sisters, probably Eleanor Letitia, and/or Ida Lewis was also said to be with the show. The Lewis sisters played Canadian vaudeville during the winter months. Later Ida was known as Julia Arthur, the well-known actress. Eleanor also became an actress, stage name Eleanor Dorel. It may be a coincedence, but Eleanor married (and divorced) an Edward Partridge. Mother of the Lewis sisters said to have been Elizabeth Arthur. Father may have been Thomas Lewis. Father may have died in Buffalo, NY January 1914. - Judy Griffin. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1645. Performance time and length, early 1840s, 19 November, 2006 - I have been unable to find a resource to tell me at what time of day a small American circus in the early 1840's would perform, and how long the performance would last. Would this be based on location, or change as the season progressed because of changing daylight hours? I am very interested in what a typical (or, at least, common) daily schedule would look like. Thanks so much. Amber D. Yuellien, 150words@gmail.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1644. Great White Way Circus, 17 November, 2006 - I am looking for information on the Great White Way Circus owned (run?) by one of my great (great)uncles. It would probably have existed sometime in the 1920's or 30's and possibly earlier since my father who was born in 1911 worked in it as a boy. It was owned by my Uncle Charlie Nigro (sp?) and his last name could have been Ludka. I know it had animal acts and its own train with the circus' name on it. My father told wonderful stories (he was the "head without the body" and the legs of the girl that was sawed in half etc.) forever about it but we never thought to ask Uncle Nigro's last name or any more information. I know it's a long shot but if anyone knows about it, I sure would like to know more. Thanks, Carole Soden. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
"After Chatre died in 1906, his nephew, Prof Kashi Nath Chatre, took over the reigns of the company. While the circuses in Maharashtra worked mainly with horses and wild animals, a different type of experiment was on in Kerala. Soon after Chatre’s Grand Circus was formed, it had travelled to Tellicherry in Kerala. A physical training instructor, Keelari Kunhikannan, had witnessed the show. Judging by the popularity of the circus shows, he started his own institute in Tellichery called Keelari Kalari. Keelari Kalari became very popular because circus stars were well paid during those days. The first Kerala circus came up in 1907. It was called the Great Malwa Circus. While the first 30 years were dominated by the Maharastrian circuses, the circuses from Kerala had taken over by the 1920s. Keelari started his own circus company called White Way Circus in 1922. While most circus activity was concentrated around Kerala, there was also news from Bengal about two acrobats called the Baisakh Brothers who joined the Ringling Brothers Circus in the US. Ninety three-year-old Meenaxi Bharda, the oldest acrobat, recounts: “During those days, everybody in Kerala wanted to join the circus, just like everybody wants to go to Dubai now. There was a lot of money and respect.” The circuses peaked in the 1950s. In fact, they were so popular that they toured abroad. Between 1962 and 1986, the Great Royal Circus travelled to 24 different countries." December 04, 2004 Tehelka -The People's Paper.
1643. Grec Quartet, 17 November, 2006 - Grec Quartet - 4 girls: Eline, Mine, Clara (Klierdya) and Angeline (Lina) Goldkette - the rumors says that Angeline got the son John Jean Goldkette born 893, Patras, Greece with King Konstantin of Greece of that time??? - - 4 girls 0 Daughters of: Louis Goldkette 1834-1895 + Jeanette Goudsmit born Netherland. I have a copy of a picture of the 4 beautiful girls, taken by Ed Lintz, Düsseldorf, Germany - 1 copy of the 4 girls autograph Metz 1895 copy engagement absolves - Greece I am looking for all informations about the 4 girls etc? jetgold, jetgold@webspeed.dk. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1642. Selma Reinsch/Blumenfeld, 16 November, 2006 - Selma Reinsch married to ? Blumenfeld. Albert Reinsch + Caroline Kolzer. 7 Children: Selma born abt 1891, Agnes born 1896, Lily, Else, Scheng, Albert, ?; Selma Reinsch marriet to a Blumenfeld 2 children: Edith and Lily Blumenfeld. In Kulturhistorische Gellschaft für Circus und Varietekunst, Marburg, Germany nr. 8 1992: Circus E. Blumenfeld - Program 1913. Das Programm begann mit einer Beduinen-Doppel-Quadrille aus 8 kamelen die von Alfons Blumenfeld geleitet wurde. Alex Blumenfeld führte 5 elefanten vor. Es war schon eine beeindruckende leistung, wenn er auf dem Kopf seines Bubu stand und ein Violinsolo spielte. (Alfons and Alex Blumenfeld, sons of: Simon Blumenfeld + Rosa Strassburger). In einer neuartigen Freihetsdressur sah man 18 Pferde und 6 Hunde. Freihetsdressuren sah man von Margarethe (could be Margerethe born Hassan but adoptiert of Louis Blumenfeld) Emil und Adolf Blumenfeld (sons of: Leopold Blumenfeld (son of Emanuel Blumenfeld + Jette Hadoch) + Caroline Hirsch - jeweils im Wechsel verschiedener Vorstellungen. Caroline Blumenfeld (born Hirsch) war als Parforcereterin nicht mehr aus der Blumenfeldmanege wegzudenken. Die Hohe Schule der Reitkunst wurde zweimal im Programm geboten hier standen jeweils wechselnd im Programm Alex jun. auf seinem Operettepferd "Puppchen" oder Selma Blumenfeld (Born Reinsch), und dann Bettina - inzwischen eine Gräfin Bettina von Miramont - die sich mit der Komptesse Ada Rühl von Bergen ablöste. If you have any information about Selma and her husband (a Blumenfeld) please mail me. jetgold, jetgold@webspeed.dk. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1641. Swiss bird imitator, 16 November, 2006 - More help needed from 19th century sideshow enthusiasts! Can anyone define a "Swiss bird-imitator" Ghio? I saw this in a newspaper ad from 1873, and I am not sure if that word really is "Ghio." Please help! Thanks, Carrie in Annandale, VA. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1640. Tommy Kay circus, 15 November, 2006 - I hope some of you can help me out, I'm looking for information on a circus that my grandad work for. The only detail that I have the is that the circus called Tommy Kay circus, my grandmother can't remember the information that I require to trace. My granddad(Thomas McDonald was in the papers for walking two tiger cub out and about. If any of this seem to mean ring a bell then please email me at beatricemcnaught@btinternet.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1639. Sideshow, 19th century, 15 November, 2006 - I need some help from late 19th century sideshow enthusiasts! Would a "four-legged" and a "four-footed" child be conjoined twins - or a child who "absorbed" a possible twin and therefore has extra limbs? What about "ledgerdemain" tricks? Thanks! Carrie, Annandale, VA. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1638. Elephant Conqueror, 15 November, 2006 - Is anyone familiar with the elephant "Conqueror" that toured with Haight's Great Eastern Circus in 1873? Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Carrie, in Annandale, VA. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1637. Atrato and Allen's, 15 November, 2006 - I wonder if you have heard of a circus called Atrato and Allen's my G G G Grandfather was the Atrato side of the circus, real name William Smith. His son John Smith was apparently the youngest circus bare back rider in the world at the age of seven. This UK circus was about in the 1800's any advice or information would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Chris Drinkhall. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1636. Joseph Sweet, sword swallower, 14 November, 2006 - My Great Grandfather was Joseph Sweet(Souilliere). He was a sword swallower for Circus Shaw, Seils-Sterling Circus and for Russell Bros. Circus. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have been looking for a site where I can view actual circus pictures (photos). I have a Seils- Sterling Circus Photo (no date) it is a 7"X11" photo with 10 people, 1 camel, 2 elephants and 10 pinto ponies in it. I also have a 12"X20" Russell Bros. Circus photo by: E.J.Kelty dated June 18,1934 with approx. 100 people and a dog and 3 monkeys and 2 horses in it. I also have a 12"X20" Seils- Sterling Four Ring Circus photo dated Aug.23, 1936 with approx. 129 people (no animals). Photo by: E.J.Kelty. 6"X4" photo of 2 brothers 8' 8" tall, 6"X4" photo of tallest man in the world 9'. Thank You Mary Leah (Jones) Padula at mleahjones@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1635. Salamanders or chameleons, 14 November, 2006 - My husband has a childhood memory of the circus. He remembers buying salamanders or chameleons from a vender who carried them stapled to a cardboard placard. Could this be right? Anne Azkoul, aazkoul@azkoul.com, Grand Rapids, Michigan. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1634. Escalante Brothers, 13 November, 2006 - I am interested in finding out the names of the performing artists in the Escalante Brothers Circus in the 1900s. Was there a trapeze artist by the name of Maria Luisa Escalante who performed in that circus? My granddaughter is doing a family history project for school, and as Maria Luisa Escalante was related to my mother-in-law, we are very interested in verifying this information mom has told us about many times! Thanks for your time and any information you can give us. Jess & Josie, jjmuniz1967@verizon.net. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1633. Tibbals, 12 November, 2006 - What is the relationship between Tibbals, prominent survivor of the Hartford Circus Fire of 1944 and Howard Tibbals, Philanthropist and creator of the Howard Circus miniature B&B circus exhibit now located in Sarasota, FL? Richard Aigen, Rickdent@adelphia.net. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1632. Contortionist, 12 November, 2006 - I have a photo which I am seeking information about. A man is doing the splits with each foot resting on a chair. His right elbow is on his ankle with his hand supporting his head, and his left hand is on his hip. He is in a costume of dark tights, dark shorts and top with fur or feather detailing, white wig and some make-up on face. His footwear appears to be leather and the front extends into a long point! The photo is probably from the late 19th Century and is by "Otto Lewin, photo" from New York city. I think the man is probably a contortionist, although I don't know that for sure. I don't for sure that the man was a circus performer, but his skill/costume seem a good fit for that world. I am writing to this site because I can't think of any other setting where this skill/costume would be used. Any information would be most appreciated. Thank you. Christy Bellah, hbellah@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1631. Dick Clemens, lion trainer, 11 November, 2006 - I am writing a biography on Dick Clemens who was a lion trainer for the Hamid Morton Circus in the late 1940s through the mid 1950s. My mother, Ann Gates, was trained by him and learned the act during this time. I would appreciate any leads on other informtion I could get. Caroline Kellems de Godoy, godoys@intelnet.net.gt. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1630. Circus regulations, 11 November, 2006 - I am a student in Business Law. We are discussing all of the rules and regulations that a Circus must comply with. Where would one go to find such information by city and state. The theme of our discussion is is there too many regs? Thank you, Jeanne Thorpe. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1629. ML Clarke, 11 November, 2006 - I am trying to reach anyone who has information concerning the ML Clarke Show. My husband's Grandfather was employed as a "Showman" in 1918. Thanks in advance, Sue. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1628. Rola bola, 10 November, 2006 - Does anyone out there have any information as to the history and development of the act known as "rola-bola", "rola rola", etc? (plank balancing on cylinder). Are there definite known ancient antecedents i.e. Egyptian, Roman, Chinese, etc, or is it a "modern" development in the circus? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Kevin Curdt, Royal Lichtenstein Circus 1987-1990, Circus Flora 1990, 1991. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
A "quick" investigation suggests that the modern "rollo bollo" [aka "rolo bolo," "rolla bolla" and "rola bola"], the circus-style version of the more generic apparatus known as the "balance board," was derived from the circa 1952 "Bongo Board." The latter originated with Stanley Washburn, Jr.'s World War II observation of children in the Gold Coast [now Ghana] improvising a crude balance board from materials readily available to them. It was not unlike the origin of the "steel drums" from 55-gallon steel barrels; local people making use of processed raw material abandoned by others. The 1953-patented Bongo Board featured a built-in alignment tongue, on the bottom of the board, which engaged a groove in the cylinder, as per the link below. The patented version specifically included the tongue and groove so as to make it patentable; the simpler form without the "improvement" may have been considered too generic and within the public domain. As patented, the inventor presented it as a "game," perhaps as with the later "hula hoop," and not as a performance apparatus. Early publicity, such as the October 1953 Garry Moore television show appearance, suggest that it was initially presented simply as a challenge to maintain one's balance on the "toy." Commercial exploitation was surely the desired goal, as was partially achieved with the sale of the Bongo Board. Stage and circus performers eliminated the tongue and groove, making the feat more difficult by placing it into a live action mode, beyond the skill level of the amateur. The "wheel of death" underwent a similar transformation from a "static" balancing device to one of dynamic action in the circus. Following mastery of the basic balancing, rolo bolo artists went to multiple stacked cylinders in crossed-planes, spheres in lieu of cylinders, the addition of juggling while balancing, placing objects between their feet and the board, the standing of another person on their shoulders, etc., all to increase the difficulty and danger of the presentation. It's not clear if there is any earlier indication of the art. It may be one of those activities that appears in an old engraving. Some acts were introduced, attempted for a while and then abandoned, for a variety of reasons. "In-line roller skates," for example, were, according to Stuart Thayer, known in the 19th century, but never achieved popularity until a century later, apparently awaiting development of materials and design technology. Stuart Thayer's book "The Performers," which covers ring acts through 1860, doesn't mention the balance board apparatus. There are references to "Globe and Barrel" [pages 135-136], which were balancing acts involving spherical and cylindrical objects upon which a performer balanced himself. These obviously lack the additional dynamic element of the balancing board atop the cylinder, yet offer some related balancing challenge. Thayer found globe acts as early as 1841 [London], and in the US by 1850. Barrel acts were performed domestically as early as 1848. Antony Hippisley Coxe's book "A Seat at the Circus" mentions the "roller balancing act" [pages 66-67], but does not derive the history. He notes that it is a difficult act to present in the round, though some have mastered the additional techniques that can make it a success in that format. George Speaight's book "A History of the Circus" affirms the above and presents nothing on the rola bola as a stand-alone act. George Chindahl's book "A History of the Circus In America" [1959] includes in the enumeration of acts "Equilibristic - foot or feet stand - on board resting on rolling cylinder/supporting teammate" as well as "Equilibristic - foot or feet stand - on board resting on rolling globe," suggesting that within a few years the Bongo Board concept had been embraced and further amplified in possibilities by circus performers. There were never many practitioners of the globe and barrel acts, according to Thayer's study and survey. Despite there being variations, they were superseded by greater daredevil acts until such time as several men rolled up high ramps, inclines and spirals both on top of and inside of spheres. This took place from 1865 to the 1910s, both indoors and outside. [See Ricky Jay, "Learned Pigs and Fireproof Women," pages 202-211, and two of the color plates.] A check of U. S. Patents as listed in the links below revealed some similar devices, but nothing with all of the features of the Bongo Board. The house moving apparatus of 1879 [281,588] is actually quite similar to the balance board, but there's no intent for dynamic balance, only stable support and movement. A pivoting, seat shock absorber device incorporates the basic idea in 1922 [1,423,946], but in this instance the board moves the body, not vice-versa. Another similar item is something akin to a stair-step apparatus in 1931 [1,824,920]. These can be viewed at the USPTO, by inserting the numbers into the search block: http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.htm The earliest presentation I located in www.newspaperarchive.com took place in 1956. The Lesack family [Bill, Norma and three-year old daughter "Bunky"] presented a number of acts at the 64th YMCA Gymboree, including juggling, adagio and "rollo bollo" board. [Winnipeg, Canada, Free Press, April 20, 1956] Their presentation was not described, so it's impossible to determine if it was simple static balancing, dynamic, or a combination of talents. The Cannestrellis were advertised as "rolo bolo" artists with the 1960 Cristiani Bros. Circus. [Stroudsburg, PA, Daily Record, May 20, 1960] They were then "rola bola" artists as early as 1962 with the Cristiani-Wallace Bros. Big 3-Ring Circus. [Ft. Pierce, FL News Tribune, October 5, 1962] My suspicion is that there was a combination of talents presented in a dynamic mode. The phrase "rola-bola" was also applied to a "crazy ball game" in 1961 advertisements. It was a four-ball game toy. Rita Rose, the "Darling of Variety," presented "Rolla Bolla," juggling and rolling globe at the Indiana County Centennial Fair in 1962. [Indiana, PA, Evening Gazette, August 20, 1962] The accompanying photograph shows her juggling, with a stand placed between the board and her feet. It guarantees by this time that the "modern" form of the dynamic, multiple-talent act had come into existence. Some links that may prove useful include: http://davidmaisel.home.comcast.net/~davidmaisel/balance_boards/ Bongo_Board/Washburn_Bongo_Board_patent_description_n_drawings.pdf http://davidmaisel.home.comcast.net/~davidmaisel/balance_boards/ Bongo_Board/photos/links_photos_n_video.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_board John McConnell provided the following recollection that may be pertinent. "Tommy and Kay Frances did a very good rola bola act as 'The Martells.' They worked on a table about four feet off the ground. There is a photo of them on page 254 of my Hanneford book. The finish trick was Tommy on the board, Kay standing on his shoulders and a small dog doing a sit-up on her head. I don't know when they created the act. I first saw it in the early 1960's, but the photo in the book indicates it's circa 1956. If you wanted to check dates, you might look at Clyde Beatty programs for the early 1950's and Polack Bros. for the later 1950's. That's when Hannefords were on those shows, and The Martells might be listed." Dominique Jando advised as follows. "I have seen rola-bola acts in the fifties. 'Crazy Monroe' was the great rola-bola act in the sixties: rola-bola was nothing new then. I believe it existed before the war, and even much before that, with clowns like Auriol using a board and a bottle - and I wonder when the Chinese started playing with it. Louis Auriol (1806-1869), performed from 1847, when he debuted at Franconi’s, until 1862, when he retired. An image shows him doing his famous 'Flaschentanz' atop wine bottles." See Saltarino’s Artisten-Lexicon. Fred Dahlinger
It is very interesting to learn about those eraly traces in America. Concerning Europe, in the 50s, was possible to see it in his simplest form (a board and a cilynder on the ground) in the small travelling circuses or street family performers of the Latin countries: Italy, Spain, Portugal. It is only in the very late 50s that this appeared regularly in the circus. I believe that Crazy Monroe (from a Spanish family) was the first to structure this in a real circus act. I think he introduced the high platform (that at the time in Spain was used by handstand or similar act) to emphasize the height, the danger and the circular view. Monroe's act was still based on a single board and a single cylinder, but with remarkable tricks, as jumps or a lazo routine. Only in the finale he performed an handstand with three cylinders under the board. Later he added multiple boards. Monroe became an European circus star in the early 60s, generating dozens of imitators. The "Rola-bola" name can be easily have a Spanish derivation ("rola" meaning "to roll", and "rolo" is for "cylinder"). It is interesting that in all the European circus jargon and literature during the 70s and 80s (circus programs, magazines and books), the act always was called as "rola-rola". After Monroe, the act became more elaborated always by Spanish, Italians or Portuguese artists from circus dynasties. It became one of those specialties suitables for circus and night-clubs as well. Always with the high platform, it became based on showmanship, an attractive partner and in the 70s his technical appeal became the increasing number or boards or cylinders on a concept of progression. Remarkable in the 70s were Enrique Romero, Abilio (Spain), Manuel Goncalves (Portugal). The act took a new turn in Russia. Here too the rola-bola appeared in the late 50s: this is stated, even if vaguely, in the Russian Circus Dictionary (1st edition 1979, 2nd 2000). Effectively, in the early 60s the Gurevitch table of classification at the Moscow Circus School included this act. Some Russian pictures around 1960 shows rola-bola soloist on the high platform in the Spanish style. It is at that time that Russian clowns started to develop the popular rola-bola parody on the ground, mainly as a quick way to cover the ring change after the "serious" act. I think is dued to the Russians the development of acrobatics and handstands on rola-bola with two or more performers. In Gurevitch's wonderful "Specialties of the Soviet Circus" (1984), six pages are devoted to the rola-bola techniques, with elaborated illustrations. The author mentions examples dated 1966. Concerning the Chinese, I don't know traces of this act before the early 80s. By the 50s, the Chinese gradually started to improve their traditions and simultaneously absorbing the western circus specialties. In the seminal Quifeng's "Chinese Acrobatics Through the Ages (1985), the author treats "balancing on a swaying board" (exactly describing the rola-bola technique) as among "new skills". By describing "supporting several performers one on top of the others", they reveals (as for many other techniques) the direct influence of the Soviets and Gurevitch methods. From China and Russia, is not to forget the influence on North Korea: I saw in 1985 Sin Cheul Kyong, one of the best rola-bola soloist I can remember. Concerning the European literature, I've found nothing about the origins of the act. Thetard (1945) doesen't mention it; the Thetard revised editon by Dauven (1978) briefly mention some of the contemporaries of the late 70s; Le Grand Livre du Cirque (1977) too, describes some of the performers of the time; the same goes for Jando (Histoire Mondiale du Cirque, 1977), for Cervellati, Gasch and other Spanish and Italian sources (Speaight, Hippsley-Coxe and others having been searched before). - Raffaele De Ritis, Italy.
1627. Clyde Beatty, 09 November, 2006 - I'm a student doing a project on Clyde Beatty/Beaty. I'm looking for information on his early years and family/friends. Also looking for picures of him with the animals. Any additional interresting info will be welcomed. I wished I could have been there to see him in action! Thank you, Pablo. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1626. Billie Lake/Timberlake, 08 November, 2006 - Was an aerialist and did a Spanish Web Act up through 1940. I see no mention of her after 1941. She was married to Archie Timberlake of the Silverlake Trio. Does anyone know her or remember where she went or what happened to her? Sykowmn36@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1625. Three Chesters, wire act, 07 November, 2006 - I am looking for any information about my mother, grandmother, grandfather and a few aunts and uncles that performed wire acts under the name "The Three Chesters". My grandmother's name was Mildred, grandfather was Harry, mother was Lorna. They performed with Cole Bros., Lewis Bros. and Ringling Bros. circuses from the late 1920's through mid 40's. I have many pictures of them performing and some group pictures of the entire circus in 1927 (Cole Bros. or Lewis Bros.). They began in PA and performed in vaudeville throughout the east coast. They were from PA but ended up in Ohio during the depression. Thank you. Cindy Weber, Ravenna, OH. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1624. Bill, circus chimp, 07 November, 2006 - Greetings - My name is Daniel Mintz, I am a freelance writer doing research for the Sequoia Park Zoo in Eureka, CA on Bill, the zoo's chimpanzee. Bill is a former circus peformer and he was with the Bertram Mills Circus in the late 1940s. He performed as a boxer called "Billy the Champ." I have one press clipping that says Bill perfomed at the Olympia in London for the queen of England. I am gathering whatever information I can about Bill's circus days. But a big part of my quest is to find out about Bill's pre-circus origin, where he came from. I am writing you with the hope that you can guide me with some advice or referrals on which people, organizations or historical resources I can contact to gain this information. Perhaps you have some knowledge to share as well. I would also be glad to share whatever historical information I ultimately gain with you. Thanks! danielmintz@neteze.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1623. Great Eastern 1870s, 07 November, 2006 - I am looking for some basic biographical information on the following people all employed by the Great Eastern Circus and Menagerie, c. 1872-1874: "Prof. Garwood" (Aeronaut); "MJ Divine" (Agent); "Adolph Barbado" (Gymnast or acrobat). Any information is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Carrie in Annandale, VA (zatarains80 at hotmail.com). Thanks!! Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1622. Codonas Video, Swing High, 06 November, 2006 - I have been trying to locate a video called "Swing High" a short (11 minutes) from 1932 regarding the Flying Codonas. I would appreciate it if anyone knows where I could purchase this video. Thank you. C. DeRosia, derosia9@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1621. Bramlet family, 05 November, 2006 - Does anyone know of a ?Bramlett? family that used to travel with the circus and possibly changed their name due to some sort of shame,or being mistrusted? I believe this would have taken place somewhere in Arkansas or close to that region. Dates would probably date back to the early 1900's maybe late 1800's. Clarissa Pierce. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1620. South America circus fire 1962, 05 November, 2006 - I am looking for the Ringling and Barnum Brothers Family. As I wish to find them, and ask information about the time the Plastic Top Circus caught fire in 1962 in South America it was on a Special Day for the Children, they were in the fire and scourched from the fire of the plastic Top. I need to find out more please, if you could help me. Many Thanks, Elaine Georgeovich. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1619. Al G. Barnes Sells-Floto sideshow 1937, 04 November, 2006 - I have a copy of a picture taken in Alva, Oklahoma on Sept. 11, 1937 of the Al G. Barnes Sells-Floto Circus Side Show. Featuring 36 participants. What makes this photo special to me is that my Grandfather, 2 Great Uncles and 1 Great Aunt were part of the show. They were the "band." How rare would a photo of this type be if at all. The Original has been handed down in the family thru generations, not sure of its whereabouts. The copy I have is in excellent condition. Thank you, Jen. Marc Jennifer Lancaster, jelmwl@earthlink.net. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1618. Question for David Lewis Hammarstrom, 03 November, 2006 - Hello Again David: Did the Ringling family who were often very critical of John Ringling North ever make peace with him over his lead in saving Big Bertha in the 1930s and again when he and he alone gained control of the big show in 1947-8? Plus, the movie showing Big Bertha in all her glory in The Greatest Show On Earth? If JRN-HRN and Art Concello and others had not saved Big Bertha in the 30s and 40s you and I may very well might not have had the opportunity to attend a performance on a Concello seat wagon. Other circus friends still discuss JRN and his ending the tented era. If only he had decided to have farewell seasons for the big top he would be known as the greatest of the greats in circus history. My love for Big Bertha is alive and well in her tented era. Long may her memory live. All My Best, Craig Johnson, Lock Haven, Pa. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1617. Circus quote, 02 November, 2006 - I am trying to find the history behind the quote, ”May all your days be circus days”. Stefanie Peters, Circusdiva73@yahoo.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1616. Chikari, 31 October, 2006 - Can someone help me identify what a "Chikari" used to be? According to the newspaper ad it is "King of Alasks forests, a strong, ferocius and magnificent animal, just arrived from Sitka." Was this a musk ox traveling with a menagerie?? Thanks! Carrie, zatarains80 at hotmail.com, Annandale, VA. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1615. Boldman, elephant trainer, 30 October, 2006 - I am researching the Boldman surname and found that there was an elephant trainer 'Boldman' who traveled with the Yankee Robinson Show 1906 Iowa. Does anyone know of this trainer and what his full name was and where he was from? I would be ever so grateful if anyone could shed some light on this man for me. Thanks - Shirley Larsen - Canada. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
Des Moines, Ia., April 8 ~ (Special) Becoming enraged by the continued absence of his regular keeper, “Tom” the mammoth elephant in the Yankee Robinson circus, in winter quarters here, this afternoon picked up his attendant, Charles Bartlow, hurled him into the air and then beat his body into pulp against a barn. After inflicting fatal injuries to his keeper, the big brute ran through Ingersoll park, uprooted half a dozen small trees, turned over three circus wagons, tore the roof from his barn, and demolished the rustle bridge across the park lake. Dozens of Bullets Fail to Subdue. For nearly an hour forty men labored to capture the enraged animal. Forty bullets were sent into his side and one into his right eye, and he was finally taken when he stepped into a chain noose. Heavy ropes quickly were fastened to his legs, and he was tied to trees in a corner of the park. After returning to the park from town Bartlow went to the elephant barns in the east end of the park and led the animals to water on the edge of the lake. After watering Little Tom and Queen and chaining them in their stalls, the keeper walked to the water’s edge with the older elephant. As “Tom” stood near the lake at the side of his attendant he turned his trunk upward, trumpeted, and then shoved Bartlow into the lake. After this the elephant ran to the northeast corner of the grounds, Bartlow dragged himself out of the lake, and, picking up a pitchfork, said to Arthur Eldredge, head hostler: “I’ll trim that d--- beast” “He’s mad.” answered Eldredge. “Leave him alone, or you’ll get killed.” Rushes at Beast with Pitchfork. But Bartlow rushed toward the elephant with the pitchfork before him. ”Tom” grasped the fork, jerked it from his keeper’s hand, and sent the man into the air with his five foot tusks. When Bartlow fell at the elephant’s feet the maddened animal picked him up, walked to the barn, and beat him against the side of the structure until two boards were shattered. Bartlow crawled through the barn door with the elephant following him. But at that instant Eldredge came around the corner and shouted for help. When forty of the employes appeared, ‘Tom” began to run along the fence from the north to the south sides of the park. Bartlow died ten minutes later. “Tom” who is one of the biggest elephants in captivity, was known as an exceptionally gentle beast, and Bartlow is his first victim. For the last week, however, the elephant had been causing trouble and the animal men with the circus attribute it to a desire for the return of his old keeper, John Boldman, from whom he had been separated two months. found this newspaper article - Shirley Larsen - Canada
1614. Norris & Rowe, Andrew Norris, 29 October, 2006 - In a 1907 newspaper article, an Andrew C. Norris killed himself in Santa Cruz, CA. The article said he was "Andrew C. Cozad known to the circus world as Andrew C. Norris, the originator of Norris & Rowe's circus." It also stated that "Andrew Norris founded Norris & Rowe's circus in 1882 and owing to poor health sold out to his brother and Mr. Rowe in 1898." His brother may have been Clarence I. Norris. Does anyone have information on Andrew C. Cozad/Norris? Or the 1882 circus? Judy Griffin. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1613. Vecely, 28 October, 2006 - Does anyone has information about Vecely who was wild animal trainer? He learned the job from Alfred Court and was killed by a big cat. François Rozès, Toulouse, France, francoisrozes@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1612. Leon Breton circus, 26 October, 2006 - Does anyone have any info about Leon Breton's circus which traveled the Maritime Provinces in Canada at the turn of the twentieth century? Rodney M. Heft. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1611. Gargantua Toto ring, 26 October, 2006 - I am currently completing an illustrated article for the website www.showhistory.com on Giant's Rings. In soliciting photos from various Giant's Ring collectors I came upon a photo of a ring engraved "Gargantua Toto" (see attached photo). These of course are the two famous apes (husband and wife) exhibited by RBBBC. Does anyone know if a "Giant's Ring" was ever sold as a souvenir for these two attractions, or is the ring as the collector who owns it suspects, a recreation or "fantasy" item? Adding to my suspicion that the ring is a fake (or recreation) is the cheesy engraving on the face, as all of the other 30+ rings on my checklist have their names cast into the metal. Thanks in advance for your help. D.B. Doghouse, Fort Myers, FL (doghouse@showhistory.com) [Note: attached photo not included in message. See posting instructions. - J. Griffin, webmaster] Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1610. Barnum book, 26 October, 2006 - May I call your attention to my book, Howdy, Sucker! What P. T. Barnum Did in Colorado? It was published in 2001. It contains material about Barnum that has never appeared in print. Much of it is based on his collection of letters at the Denver Public Library. The letters led me to several years of research. Barnum sent his daughter to Colorado because of the scandal she created by leaving her husband and children. Indirectly Barnum's connection led to her brother-in-law becoming governor of Colorado and also saving the University of Denver. Other titillating stories included the duel of the local madams at his secret beer garden and his Solid Muldoon hoax. He also founded a town in Denver which which still carries his name. If you are interested you can find much more about me by Googling "Ida Libert Uchill." I think there are chapters in the book that can stand alone in a periodical. Also, I think it's time to advertise the book. If only I had one smidgen of the showman's talent for marketing. I will deeply appreciate any and all suggestions. Yours very truly, Ida Uchill. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1609. Susan Lacey, 26 October, 2006 - Greetings, I am appealing to the great Circus Fans of America for help. I am sure you all remember Susan Lacey, the British Lady who has worked a tiger act for the Hawthorn Corporation for 14 years. She is currently in Europe, and will be retiring at the end of this year. She lost many pictures that she had on the boat trip over two years ago, and hopes to replace them now that she finishing up her career, particularly back stage, loading up, cast parties, with friends, as well as act photos. She is willing to pay for any cost incurred, and will be most grateful for any assistance. Her mailing service until February 2007 is , Susan Lacey, P.O. Box 385, Richmond, Illinois 60071. She would also like to hear from old friends she made here in the States. Thank you for your help. Wburck3@aol.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1608. Knievel, Dobritch Circus, 26 October, 2006 - I am the contributing author on Mr. Knievel's autobiography and am looking for information, programs, photos, etc. of the time Evel spent with Al Dobritch's International Circus, I believe in the late 1960's or early 1970's. Is there anyway or anyone you could turn me on to finding this sort of information/memorabilia? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Matt Vincent. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1607. Lester Burns, 26 October, 2006 - My great grandfather was a clown in the Robinsin Famous Shows. His name was Lester Burns. I was looking for some pictures or memorabilia in which he might be in. I have some of his things but I was really interested in some photos. I believe he was in during 1915 &1916. Thank you, Joellen Standard, joandscott2000@yahoo.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1606. Phillips family, 25 October, 2006 - I am trying to find a family said to be with the circus, Samuel Anthony Phillips. He was born May 25,1879 death 1940ish. Unknown brother. My Mom had an Aunt that was killed in a Trapeze act possible 1930's. Samuel was in Arcadia Fla Desoto co. The aunts name is unknown but is there some site info on circus related deaths? I am doing a family history for my Mom and Samuel was her Grandfather. I do have a photo of Samuel and his Brother dressed up for a show it seems. Sam is in the tophat. This may not be of much help but its all I have to go on at this time. If this could be posted or if you know of any places to search I would be greatful. Thank you very much. Ms. B. V., yipple18@yahoo.com. [Note: attached photo not included in message. See posting instructions - J. Griffin, webmaster] Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1605. Purchase menagerie, 25 October, 2006 - I am looking for any information regarding the Purchase menagerie and any pictures that may have survived the years. My mother was a Purchase and it appears that we are related to them. I would be greatfull for any information you can give me. Yours sincerly, Mr Russell West. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
PURCHASE, Andrew. (1). Menagerie proprietor, originally a waxworks showman. Born Puddletown, Dorset, in 1802. As a boy worked on a farm and then went to sea for several years. Became a fairground showman in 1825. One of his lion tamers was Capt. Beaumont. Died 28th December 1879, aged 78 years. Buried in Brockley Cemetery, London. Father of Andrew (1837-1909), James (d.1875), Mark (d.1936) and Luke (still living in 1938) (Sources - World's Fair, 7/3/1925, p.24, col.2. P.109; ibid, 1938, ABC of the Shows; ibid, 20/2/1954, p.24, col.4; PURCHASE, Andrew. (1). (SUPPLEMENTED). Menagerie proprietor, formerly a waxworks showman. Born Puddletown, Dorset, on 15th July 1802, baptised at St. Mary's church, on 15th August 1802. The fourth of a family of six children. As a boy worked on a farm and then went to sea for several years. Became a fairground showman in 1825. One of his lion tamers was Capt. Beaumont. Married twice, first to Jane Verrier, his second wife Elizabeth being Jane's sister, both of Stoke St. Gregory, in Somerset. Died 28th December 1879, aged 78 years, at Deptford, Kent. Buried in Brockley Cemetery, London. Father of Harriett (1835-1887, married Frederick Buckley, traveller), Andrew (1835-1909), Jane (b.1839), James (1840-1875), Mark (1855-1935), Luke (still living in 1938) and Mary Ann (1860-?, married George Whiting). His will bequeathed £50 each to two of his brothers and left his leasehold beer house, 'The Builders Arms, Deptford, plus a further ten houses in that town, to his various children. World's Fair, 7/3/1925, p.24, col.2. P.109; ibid, 1938, ABC of the Shows; ibid, 20/2/1954, p.24, col.4; Nick Brady, e-mail of 24/6/2003; PURCHASE, Andrew. (2). Menagerist. Born 1835, in Sheffield, the son of Andrew Purchase, senior. Not a vast concern, but in 1899 had a good collection of animals, 5 or 6 cages, with 3 cages of waxworks. In 1908, his lion tamer Marco, a coloured man, was attacked at Purchase's menagerie. Partner in Purchase Brothers' Circus and Menagerie, which altogether comprised twenty wagons, which travelled in fourteen different countries, eight years abroad, before the Great War. Bob Gandey started out with them. Married twice, first to Elizabeth Jane Treloar, and second to Grace Grant. Died 11th August 1909, aged 74 years, in Brighton. Buried Brockley Cemetery, London. Retired but was with the menagerie for a time during the summer. His son Andrew (3) (1867-1942) was in partnership with his father, and continued the menagerie. Son Thomas (1877-1932) was a showman, daughter Jane (b.1877, married a Mr Abrahams), son James (b.1880) was a showman, who married Annie, as was son William (1884-1951, married Alice), daughter Grace Emily (b.1887) and son John Benjamin (born 1886, married Vic), manager of Pat Collins' lion show in the 1920s (Sources - Worlds Fair, 15/2/1908; ibid, 14/8/1909, ibid, 18/9/1909; ibid, 9/3/1929, p.18, col.3; ibid, 10/8/1929, p.24, col.2; ibid, 14/9/1929, p.11, col.1; ibid, 23/11/1935, p.19, col.2; ibid, 4/4/1953, p.20, col.5; Nick Brady, e-mail of 4/7/2003). PURCHASE, Andrew. (3) Of menagerie fame. Born 11th March 1867. Still alive in 1937, living in retirement with his son John (Sources - World's Fair, 13/3/1937, p.1, col.3; Nick Brady, e-mail of 9/9/2003). PURCHASE, Andrew. (3). Of waxworks and menagerie fame. Born 11th March 1867, the son of Andrew (2). Was with his father's waxworks show. As a young man set up a side-show of a performing seal, then added a giant horse. After the death of his father, he inherited the waxworks and toured this for some time. Gradually he introduced wild animals, making a waxworks and menagerie. In the meantime he had married, twice, and his sons became animal trainers, under the names Capt. Beaumont and Prof. Williams. Married first to Harriett Buckley and second to Daisey. Died 28th February 1942, 74 years of age. Father of Victoria Jane (married Cornelius Mahoney), Frank, John (1897-1958, showman, married Ann Crowther), Matilda (1896-1945, married Francis Brady), Albert (b.1898) and Edward (b.1900).(Sources - The Showman, 7/3/1902, p.41, col.2; World's Fair, 7/3/1942, p.1, col.2; Nick Brady, e-mail of 4/7/2003). PURCHASE, John. Menagerist and circus manager. John Benjamin, born 6th March 1886, at Cranbrook, Kent, the son of Andrew Purchase (2) of Menagerie and Waxwork Show fame. Brother of Andrew (3) (1867-1942), Thomas (1877-1932), Jane (b.1877, married Abrahams), James (b.1880), William (1884-1951) and Grace Emily (b.1887). Born with his father's menagerie show, on the village green. The fourth generation of the menagerie family. Travelled with the show in fourteen different countries, eight years abroad before the Great War. The show incorporated the Purchase Brothers, the circus and menagerie (8 wagons), and the New Wild West, altogther 20 wagons. Did his share of the ring work. In 1913 joined Thomas Ord Pinder's circus, with his uncle, under the names of 'Lariat Tom' and 'Jack Corbett'. In 1914 he went to South Africa with Bostock's Royal Italian Circus, staying three and a half years. At Singapore joined H.M. Forces, but was invalided out with malaria. Had three seasons with Frank Bostock, including one in France. Manager of Pat Collins' lion show in the 1920s. Joined G.B. Chapman's Zoo Circus, for the 1928-9 season, as general manager. At liberty in February 1929, his position having been taken over by Albert Flexmore. In 1948 was reported to be in South Africa, with John Kirk's circus. Said to have engineering qualifications. His brother William died in the USA in 1951. Celebrated his 78th birthday in 1964, at his home in Hanwell, London. Died 11th August 1964, at his home in Hanwell, London. Buried 17th August (Sources - World's Fair, 2/3/1929, p.10, col.3; ibid, 9/3/1929, p.18, col.3; ibid, 20/11/1948, p.1, col.5; ibid, 28/1/1950, p.14, col.5; ibid, 14/3/1964, p.1, col.5; ibid, 15/8/1964, p.1, col.5; Nick Brady, e-mail of 4/7/2003). PURCHASE, Mark. Showman. Born August 1855, son of Andrew Purchase (1) the menagerie and waxworks proprietor. Wife, Rosaline 'Rose', died 8th April 1931 in London, aged 79 years. Father of Lily. Died 15th July 1935, at Brockley (Sources - World's Fair, 18/4/1931, p.1, col.2; ibid, 8/4/1933, p.47, col.3; ibid, 26/8/1933, p.1, col.2. photo; ibid, 2/9/1933, p.33, col.2; ibid, 11/1/1936, p.52, col.3). PURCHASE, Mark. (SUPPLEMENTED) Showman. Born 25th August 1855, at Morpeth, Northumberland, second son of Andrew Purchase the menagerie and waxworks proprietor. His elder brother Matthew died in infancy. Wife, Mary Rosaline 'Rose', nee Tibbs, was born Deptford, Kent, in 1852. They had at least seven children, Mark (1875-1875), Lillian (1876-1967), Louisa Rosalind (1878-1956, married travelling showman William Wilson), William (1880-?), Flora Ellen (1882-1971, married travelling showman Herbert Andrew Whiting), Violet Minerva (1886-1946, married Leonard Albert Weller) and Lewis James (1889-1969, married Minnie 'Dolly' Piper). Wife died 8th April 1931 in London, aged 79 years. Father of Lily. Died 15th July 1935, at Brockley (Sources - World's Fair, 18/4/1931, p.1, col.2; ibid, 8/4/1933, p.47, col.3; ibid, 26/8/1933, p.1, col.2. photo; ibid, 2/9/1933, p.33, col.2; ibid, 11/1/1936, p.52, col.3; Nick Brady, e-mail of 9/9/2003). Please let me know if the above is helpful! Can I suggest that if you are interested in the British Purchases and you are seeking more information and photographs, you post your query on a British website? Try www.circusbiography.co.uk to reach a more targeted audience! Best wishe, John Turner.
1604. William Hindley, 24 October, 2006 - Is anyone familiar with "William Hindley"? He was in the company of Andrew Levi and Horace Nichols when the census counted them on the property of Agnes Lake Thatcher in 1870. Thank you! Carrie, Virginia, zatarains80 at hotmail.com. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1603. Holzstran, highwire, 24 October, 2006 - I am interested in finding out information about my great-great grandfather and grandmother. Both of them were aerial highwire walkers in Munich Germany. Their names were Martin and Anna Holzstran(sp). They owned and operated a laundry while also performing on the highwire. Martin fell to his death as his rope slackened on or around 1888 while performing. His wife Anna was on another wire at the time. A statue or monument was placed in Stuttgart in their honor. Thank you. Karen Booze, karenbooze@verizon.net. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1602. Kelty photograph, 24 October, 2006 - Great site. Does anyone know where I can get a great reproduction of a Kelty photograph, ideally in a large format? LW, LPW2000@comcast.net. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
1601. Great Frank Miller Shows, 23 October, 2006 - I can find nothing on the internet concerning "The Great Frank Miller Shows" This particular circus came to Grants Pass, Oregon in July of 1910 and performed for three days. They had a dog named Maxima the wonderful educated Canine who would dive from a ladder 70 feet high. The fearless Lashell did his aerial and acrobatic feats in mid-air twice daily, afternoons and evenings. Four shows, and a steam riding merry-go-round with the latest amusment devises, the lovers tubs.
Show No. 1 had a thing called the Watermelon Trust. Ten-people. Do not miss this one.
Do not forget the date, All shows are under a waterproof tent. Perhaps you might list this circus so that others might gather some knowledge that it even existed. The internet draws a blank when you type in the google search box: "The Great Frank Miller Show." Thank You, Michael Oaks, a 74 year old citizen of Grants Pass and past president of the Josephine County Historical Society. Respond to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.
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