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2750. History - acrobatics & circus, 05 Jan 2009 - Dear Circushistory, I have to write a paper for school and I'm writing about the reasons why sports people and gymnasts make the transition from the competitive sports world to the circusworld. Part of the paper is about the history of acrobatics in the circus. Both in the Chinese and the Western circusses that is. I was wondering if someone could provide me with information on this subject, how acrobatics became so linked with the circus and part of its culture and how this started in the first place. I would be very grateful if my questions can be answered. Any answers can be e-mailed to tarikrammo@hotmail.com. With kind regards, Tarik Rammo, The Netherlands. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 21 Jun 2013 - My mothers family are the Yacopis. Andy Wetzel

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2749. Hartzells, clowns, 05 Jan 2009 - Glenn B. (Bones) Hartzell, his wife Olive Hartzell, and their daughter, Glenna J. Hartzell were all clown performers with various circuses during the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s. They lived in Los Angeles, California. Olive died of a heart attack in 1946 in Kirkland, Washington while playing an engagement with Dodge's Thrill Circus. She was cremated and her ashes are buried in the Ladies Auxilliary Pacific Coast Showmen's Association section of the Evergreen Cemetery in Los Angeles. Glenn died in 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. He, too was cremated but the final disposition of his ashes is unknown. Glenna died in 1993 in Everett, Washington and her final resting place is also unknown. Does anyone have any pictures, pictures, or other documents identifying these people? rahartzell at cox.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 11 Jan 2009 - Dear Hartzells, The Pacific Coast Showmen’s Association Memorial service is today, yesterday we decorated all of the graves with flowers and at 12:00 pm today [Jan. 10] we will be having the service at Evergreen Cemetery in Los Angels Ca. I would be glad to send you a picture of the headstone and will look for any other Hartzells there. Thanks, John, jmaccal@Gmail.com

    Reply: 13 Jan 2009 - John. That would be great. Olive's ashes are buried in a shared grave. The names on the headstone are LALIA M. PEPIN, OLIVE HARTZELL, and LILLABELLE WILLIAMS. Their flat headstone is at the base of an upright headstone that reads LADIES AUXILIARY PACIFIC COAST SHOWMENS ASSN. ORGANIZED 1930. I've seen this online at findagrave.com. Please reply if you find any other Hartzell's. Thanks.

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - Re: Hartzells. There are still members of the Hartzell Family in the circus/show business. Dena Lacey Hartzell is a CPA in Las Vegas, who specializes in doing income taxes for travelling show people and Mike Hartzell, who is in charge of talent for the Circus Circus Casino Dynasty that includes several other properties including the Excalibur. Another Hartzell and his wife present an Archery Act that has appeared all over the world and even on David Letterman’s TV Show. You could easily find any of these people by googling them and they must all be related somehow to the Hartzells that you’re investigating. Neil C. Cockerline

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2748. Kellys, 05 Jan 2009 - My family were involved directly with a circus until the late 1800's early 1900's - the name was Kelly. Can you help? Where can I look to find the names of circuses operating in the 1800's? Sheila. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 05 Jan 2009 - Kelly is a very common name. Do you have more information? You can find a year-by-year list of circuses on this website. Click on History on the navigation bar, then on Sturtevant's List of Circuses. Judy Griffin

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2747. Yvonne's Dogs, 03 Jan 2009 - Hallo, and happy New Year, My name is Yvonne Harvey Shea, maiden name Yvonne van der Gracht. Born in Haarlem, Netherlands. In the year 1958 I worked with Ringling Bros., 88th season, 1958-1959 (Yvonne's Dogs) and traveled through the States and 2 months in Mexico with them. During the year 1959 also did the Captain Kangaroo and the Paul Winchell Show, then later in 1959 worked in Cuba and Puerto Rico with the circus Gaby, Fofo & Miliki, (Yvonne Dog Parade), returned to Europe, and Dec 1960./Jan1961 worked with Circus Strassburger (Yvonne Williams en haar honden) Amsterdam in Carre 3 weeks, Christmas Season. I am trying to locate if there is any film footage available on the computer. Please advise. Thanks, Yvonne. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 10 Jan 2009 - Hallo Yvonne, Incredible, yesterday I talked about you with a friend and today I read your message. I would like to get in touch with you about several things which are a bit too personal to put on this message board. So please, contact me: chaross@prodigy.net.mx. Very best wishes – Charly Ross.

    Reply: 01 Jul 2009 - Heb gelezen dat jij omstreeks 1960 hebt gewerkt met circus strassburger,volgens mij werkte daar ook mijn oom maar ik weet niet precies het jaar meer. Zijn naam is Joop van Baer en volgens mij had hij een groep kleine mensen,was getrouwd met een Duitse of Oostenrijkse. Ik ben ooit in het circus geweest (denk Naarden) maar kan me niet meer veel herinneren helaas,heb jij ooit over hen gehoord of kun jij mij misschien verder helpen? Met hartelijke groeten, Ingrid van Baer.

    Attempted translation: Did you read that around 1960 have worked with circus straordinaria citizen, I worked there my uncle but I do not know exactly the year. His name is Joop van Baer and I think he had a small group of people, was married to a German or Austrian. I've been been in the circus (think Naarden) but I do not remember much more, unfortunately, have you ever heard about them or can you maybe help me? With warm regards, Ingrid of Baer.

    Reply: 11 Dec 2011 - Hallo Yvonne, mijn naam is Ron Kroon, ik ben een zoon van Blanche Kroon-van Duinen, kleinzoon van Rene van Duinen de koorddanser waarbij jij op dertienjarige leeftijd in de leer bent geweest. Eindelijk heb ik een link gevonden naar iemand die me misschien meer over hem kan vertellen.Ik hoop dit zo. Mijn grootvader is in 1960 op 72-jarige leeftijd overleden aan een hartfalen. Ik was toen 12. Ik kwam een paar keer per jaar bij hem in zijn huisje in de Kleine Houtstraat. Dit werd door mijn moeder niet aangemoedigd omdat hij de armoedzaaier van de familie was, een kermisklant, terwijl haar stiefvader een kleine industrieel was waar wel behoorlijk geld binnenkwam .Kortom ze had behoorlijk kapsones en zich zogoed als van haar vader afgekeerd. Voor haar fatsoen ging ze ieder jaar nog wel eens bij hem langs. Ze heeft me nooit iets over hem verteld terwijl ik alles wilde weten over dat avontuurlijke kermisleven waaraan zij ook heeft deelgenomen.Hem kon ik het niet meer vragen, de vragen kwamen later toen ik een jaar of 15-16 was, ze wist hoegenaamd niets. Toen zijn tweede vrouw, Bertha Hertsberger overleden was, ik weet niet meer precies wanneer,maar ze heeft hem vele jaren overleefd, stond er een advertentietje in de krant van de notaris betreffende haar overlijden en dat zei ik tegen mijn moeder, zij is is toen naar de notaris toe gegaan en kwam terug met twee dikke plakboeken vol met krantenverslagen van tientallen jaren optredens die hij door het hele land gedaan had.Ik zei tegen mijn moeder, kijk jij ze eerst maar door,dan wil ik ze wel zien,Toen ik er haar een paar maanden later om vroeg wist ze van niets, dus die boeken zijn zo in de vuilnisbak verdwenen omdat ze met niets meer aan haar vader herinnerd wilde worden.Ook dit is natuurlijk een van de redenen dat ik zo weinig weet van de man waar ik als klein jongetje zo tegen opkeek en bij wie ik zo graag in de leer gegaan zou zijn. In de tuin van het concertgebouw had hij een oefendraad gespannen van een meter of 6 van een boom naar een stellage,ongeveer twee meter hoog, ik was met hem meegegaan daar naartoe,hij stond net even met iemand te praten en ik ging de draad op en toen zag hij mij, kom daar onmiddellijk vanaf, riep hij, wat moet ik je moeder vertellen als je eraf valt.Vanaf dat ik een jaar of acht was wilde ik in mijn zomervakanties van school al met hem op toernee de kermissen langs, maar geen haar op het hoofd van mijn moeder die daar over dacht, terwijl hij daar best een voorstander van was, evenals mijn grootmoeder,zijn ex die nooit een kwaad woord over hem gezegd heeft. Stel je voor dat ik in het circus terecht zou komen,mijn moeder moest er niet aan denken.Later, in mijn werkzame leven heb ik veel gevaarlijker dingen gedaan op de olieplatforms op de Noordzee. Beste Yvonne, ik hoop zo dat ik een antwoord van je krijg en dat je me het een en ander weet te vertellen over de man die,zo voel ik het nog steeds, als een beschermengel op mijn linkerschouder zit. Graaf in je herinnering. Als je veel weet te vertellen ben ik bereid met mijn vrouw bij je langs te komen en er onze zoveelste vakantie in de states van te maken. Ik eindig dit schrijven met de allervriendelijkste groeten en zie met verlangen uit naar een antwoord van je. Ron Kroon.

    [Google translation: Hi Yvonne, my name is Ron Kroon, I am a son of Blanche Kroon-van Duinen, Dunes grandson of Rene of the tightrope walker with you at the age of thirteen have been in the leather. Finally I found a link to someone who might me more about him can vertellen. Ik hope so. My grandfather was in 1960 at the age of 72 deceased with heart failure. I was 12. I came a few times a year with him in his house in Little Houtstraat. This was not encouraged by my mother because he pauper of the family, a showman, while her stepfather was a small industry where there is good money came. In short, they are showing off and had pretty good as her father turned away. For her respectability, she sometimes every year along with him. She never showed me anything about him as I wanted to know everything about the adventurous life that they have fair deelgenomen.Hem I could not ask the questions came later when I was 15-16 years old, she knew little. When his second wife, Bertha Hart Berger deceased was, I do not remember exactly when, but she survived him many years, there was a advertentietje in the newspaper of the notary on her death and that I told my mom, she has been when the notary have gone and came back with two thick scrapbooks filled with newspaper reports of decades shows that it throughout the country had done. I told my mother, but do you see them first, then I do see them, when I have her a few months later asked for she knew nothing, so those books are so lost in the trash because they no longer remembered her father wanted worden.Ook this is obviously one of the reasons I know so little of the man I was a little boy who looked up to as I like the theory would have gone. In the garden of the concert, he had a practice wire strung from one meter or 6 of one tree to a rack, about two meters high, I had accompanied him towards it, he was just here talking to someone and I went thread and when he saw me, come directly from there, he said, what should I tell your mother if you valt.Vanaf off I was eight years old I wanted in my summer holidays from school to tour with him all through the fairs, but no hair on the head of my mother who thought, as he was quite an advocate, like my grandmother, his ex never a bad word about him said. Imagine that I would end up in the circus, my mother could not bear the denken. Later in my working life I have done things far more dangerous on the oil platforms in the North Sea. Dear Yvonne, I hope that I get a reply from you and me do a thing to say about the man, so I still feel like a guardian angel on my left shoulder. Dig into your memory. If you know much I am prepared to tell my wife to come to you and our umpteenth vacation in the states of it. I end this letter with the very kindest regards and see desire for an answer from you. Ron Crown.]

    Reply: 22 Feb 2012 - I received a message from Ron Kroon, but have no idea how I can contact him. Please reply to my e-mail tulip@yvonneharvey.com with information were to reach Ron. Thank you very much, Yvonne, ( Yvonne's Dogs )

    Reply: 26 Jun 2012 - Still no one has found a film from 1958 season from Ringling Bros.? Yvonne

    Reply: 28 Sep 2012 - Hello again, I am still trying to find some kind of footage from season 88, year 1958 from Ringling Bros. regarding my act, Yvonne's Dogs or Captain Kangoroo, or Paul Winchel Show they were both in 1959. Please can you help me? Thanks Yvonne

    Reply: 14 Jan 2013 - Yvonne. Do you know that your act (I think at Strassburger) is on You Tube? h.hamer

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2746. Lorow Family, 03 Jan 2009 - Bert James Lorow (5/5/1886-12/12/1954), wife, Nellie (Johnson) 6/6/1885-1/17/1946, sons, Bert James,Jr., Cortez 12/04/1906, Nat 1/27/1911-11/6/1964 and Connilous Timothy 1/25/1922-11/1/1945. Bert Jr. carried the nickname Snookey and Nat was better known as Skeeter. There were three daughters, Nellie "Raynell" was married to Rajah Raboid and later to George Golden, 3/22/1905-8/15/1993. Laura 9/22/1908-3/7/1989 married Pete Manos (Athletic Show), Mary Edith "Ginger Ray" 6/4/1915-4/24/1989 married Charles (Chuck) Magid (Carol Stream Shows), Sharon Timothy Magid their son is married to Susan Strates, granddaughter of James E. Strates. Bert James Sr. should appear as a "side show" Punch and Judy, Glass Blower and illusionist (levitation, headless woman, saw and sword, bullet catch, etc.) Early Edward J. Kelty photos show the Lorow family as a bagpipe band (Christy Bros. 1925). I am wondering if there is anyone on staff or a pro researcher that would be interested in researching Lorow circus or Manos athletic show history? Thank you for your great work. Have a great New Year. Peter A. Manos. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2745. Bond or Seccombe high diver, 03 Jan 2009 - Complete shot in the dark here but I am researching my family history and remember my grandmother telling me that an Uncle of hers, either a Bond or a Seccombe, had a son who was a high diver in a circus in America and he broke his neck in one dive. This would’ve been between 1910 and probably 1930. Anybody have any ideas at all? Sorry, very vague I know so not really expecting anything. Linda McCabe. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - Linda: I bought a scrapbook full of the history of high divers that performed in American circuses and fairs on eBay a few years ago, and I will check to see if there is any information on the diver you are investigating. If so, I will post what I can find back on this message board. Wish me luck! Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: 09 Feb 2009 - Hello Linda: I checked the scrapbook that I have and found a reference to Stan "Zip" Bond, World Famous High Fire Diver, "Direct from Plymouth, England", who apparently lit his costume on fire and dove 80 feet into a tank of flaming gasoline (actually a pool of water with gasoline or another flammable liquid floating on the surface that was lit on fire; when the diver hit the pool, the water would splash out, which would cause the remaining flaming surface liquid to splash out as well, putting out the fire.) I have a small newspaper ad for the act appearing at the Lakeside Swimming Club, Inc., but it has a stamped date of June 27, 1964. Maybe this is another relation? Send your e-mail address and I can send you scans of two small photos from a program and the newspaper ad. Hope this helps! Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: Hello. I have a friend with me now who's father was Stan 'Zip' Bonds, and is interested in learning more about his work in the USA. He is also interested in how 'Linda' who posted this bulletin, got the information about either Stan Bonds or someone called Seacombe could be a distant relative? Could you possibly send me the scans of the Bonds appearance you mentioned to show my friend as he is obviously very interested in anything to do with his father. Any replies or info would be greatfully received. Thank you, Dave Turner on behalf of Bradley Bonds. UK

    Reply: 06 Mar 2011 - I remember Zip Bond in the late fifties. I was about 12/13 years old and saw him regularly perform his high dive from a tower into a small pool. He wore a silver suit and helmet and as he set himself alight his assistant set the pool on fire, when he hit the water the flames were extinguished, he climbed out and took a bow. I was fascinated that he never killed himself! Dennis

    Reply: 19 May 2013 - Well I had forgotten I had posted this message and not done any family history for a few years. Thanks for all the replies and time taken researching. I think my Bond may have been a bit before this as my grandmother was born in 1906 and it was one of her uncles who went to America. Her uncle Nathaniel Bond ended up in Illinois so maybe one of his descendants. I don't know if there were any Bonds of her family in the 1960s who went to America, be very interested to find out more about Stan Bond. Linda

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2744. Mitchell's Pavilion photo, 03 Jan 2009 - A 1898 photo of this small tented show can be seen on this website Mitchell's Pavilion and scroll down. Opens in a new window (Internet Explorer) or a new tab (Netscape, Firefox). Thanks to Linda Westfall for this photo. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2743. Luke Ranft's circus, 02 Jan 2009 - Anyone know anything about a circus owned and run by a Luke Ranft in the early 1900s. He had his whole family with 3 children in the circus. He was from Niles, Michigan but went all over the midwest and eastern US performing. Joyce Woods, Mijoyw@aol.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 02 Jan 2009 - Parkinson's Directory of American Circuses: Bentley & Ranft Circus, 1913, Charles Bentley, proprietor; L. H. Ranft Show 1914, L. H. Ranft, proprietor. There is a brief mention in the New York Clipper, September 20, 1913: the Bently & Ranft Great Shows, the 1913 show closed at Niles, Michigan on September 30; that the show had been playing northern Michigan to big crowds.
        It looks like the show existed in 1917 (Pennsylvania): Smithfield Borough, retail dealers - L. F. Ranft Show, circus. Weekly Courier (Connellsville, PA), May 3, 1917, p. 7. Mercatile Appraiser's List of Fayette County, Pa., for the Year 1917. (including a proprietors of shows of whatever kinds, liable for a license). A 1924 advertisement for the Con T. Kennedy Shows had the Ranft Pony Circus as an attraction. Ironwood Daily Globe (Ironwood, MI), July 29, 1924, p. 7. In the 1920 Census, Niles, Michigan, Louis H. Ranft listed himself as a traveling showman. By 1930 he was a truck driver. Judy Griffin

    Reply: 03 Jan 2009 - According to an entry in Parkinson’s circus list [not in Chindahl or Sturtevant], Ranft was in partnership with circus man Charles A. Bentley [real name Benton] of Eaton, Rapids, Michigan in 1913, the show title being Bentley & Ranft. The listing may have been generated by a discovered newspaper advertisement, or perhaps a handbill [formally known in the circus and printing business as a quarter sheet, or by collectors as a “herald”].
        These modest troupes were family-based operations, and often other families joined to make them possible with modest revenues and expenses, everyone working hard setting up the tents, handling props and being “generally useful.” A Bentley roster from 1912 doesn’t mention the Ranft family, but it may not list all of the troupers with the circus. There are photographs, a handbill and perhaps other items documenting Bentley’s career.
        Bentley operated an overland [horses and wagons, not internal combustion vehicles] tent show for many years and is reasonably well documented. He was in the business by 1873 and had a tent outfit by 1887, playing halls in the winter. His wife Nettie served as treasurer and his daughter, Geneva Bentley, who presented a Pomeranian dog act, was the only act listed by name. She was identified as show secretary in another account. His Eaton Rapids winter quarters of 34 years were destroyed by a tornado in July 1914 and he established a base elsewhere before moving back later in life.
        Ranft’s circus exploits are less well known, there being no readily known ephemera, photography and only a single trade paper account. He and his family may well have been itinerant performers with a variety of tent and hall shows, few of which are well documented.
        The following coming from an announcement in “Billboard,” March 21, 1914, page 62. His circus opened at Niles, Michigan on May 2, 1914. It, too, was an overland tent operation. It was described as having ten wagons and 22 horses with 24 people, of which nine played in the band [presumably there was “doubling” between acts and being in the “band”]. The outside free act to attract residents to the circus was a high dive act, likely into a net or tarp. The big top was stated to be a fifty-foot round with two thirty-foot wide middles, into which were placed ten lengths of “blues” [general admission plank-type seating] and four lengths of reserved seats.
        The staff and cast were listed as: L. H. Ranft, proprietor and manager; C. L. Alderfer, general superintendent [an experienced circus man, originally associated with the Ben Wallace operation and who took out his own four wagon circus in 1912]; Charles E. McLoon [might actually have been Maloon, another circus name], general agent; Mrs. L. H. Ranft, treasurer; Mrs. C. L. Alderfer, superintendent of cookhouse and reserved seats; Jack Stevens, privileges and adjuster; James. H. Smith, band leader; Miss Sylvia Alderfer, slack wire and rolling globe; the same or another Alderfer doing head-balancing trapeze; Fluhrer and Fluhrer, sketch artists; Robert Pearson, rings and contortion; Charles E. Bybee, boss hostler; Nick Carter, boss props.
        I would not be surprised to learn that Ranft might have trouped with the Alderfer shows before and after his own circus was on tour. Alderfer can be traced out of Peru and Denver, Indiana. For further information I’d check the Niles and Eaton Rapids, Michigan newspapers and local history files. The annual Marcks circus rosters and routes and Chindahl notes in the CWM library may also have further entries. Fred Dahlinger

    Reply: 08 Jun 2014 - I'm interested in what you found out my great grand Uncle and Aunt were George Babe Fluhrer and June E. Fluhrer. June was killed in a car crash and he married a second time a very famous Children's Theatre Director Mary E. Welborn. I was in contact with her late brother Rev. Henry Welborn right up until his death. Just found out about Ranft circus we had and June a member go Ziegfield Follies which visited London, Ontario in 1919. I have photos that are likely Billboards from Ranft circus. Hope you will write.
        Findagrave has this on Ranft. Lute H. Ranft, March 30, 1881-March 7, 1955.
        Niles Daily Star, Tuesday, March 8, 1955, page 2, col. 5, microfilm Niles District Library: Lute H. Ranft, 73, 517 First Court, former Niles alderman from the fourth ward, died Monday noon in the Tampa, Fla., Municipal Hospital. Ranft, who for many years owned his own circus, was born March 30, 1881, in Niles and lived his entire life here. He was spending the winter in Florida at the time of his death. Starting as a musician in 1900, Ranft was associated with circus life for almost 30 years. In about 1907 he bought his own circus, one of the old time dog and pony shows and travelled the country every year until 1927. Ranft always took his family with him on the yearly caravans, and at times had up to 100 employees working with him on the show. The troop averaged 15 horse-drawn wagons and was known as the L.H. Ranft Society Circus. Every year the routes would be changed and during all the years he was operating the circus played every one of the 48 states during the various seasons. Surviving are: his wife, Wallesina, two daughters, Mrs. James Lewellen and Mrs. William Woods, both of Niles; and a son, Herman Ranft, of Niles; seven grandchildren; one great-grandchild, and a brother, Art Ranft, of New Port Richey, Fla. The body will be returned to the Pifer Funeral Home and arrangements are to be announced later.
        Niles Daily Star, Thursday, March 10, 1955, page 2, col. 5, microfilm Niles District Library. Set Ranft Rites. Services for Lute H. Ranft of 517 First Court, will be conducted at 2 p.m. Saturday at the Pifer Funeral Home by the Rev. Ray McCoy, pastor of the First Baptist Church. Burial will be at Silverbrook Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home.
        Obit obtained from Friends of Silverbrook website. Family links: Spouse: Emma Evers Ranft (1884 - 1947)* Children: Florence R. Ranft Lewellen (____ - 1982)* Gladys L. Woods (1907 - 1994)* http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=60349893 - Leonard G. Fluhrer III

    Reply: 09 Jun 2014 - Additional digitization of resources makes it considerably easier to find mention of obscure showmen like L. H. Ranft. The New York Clipper, available in its entirety at Illinois Digital Newspaper Archive, online, yielded several additional hits for Ranft+circus. These included one for his 1914 overland show and several for 1924, when he operated a dog and pony back end show on the S. W. Brundage (May 14 dateline report) and Con T. Kennedy (June 14 dateline report) carnivals. Searching for the name Ranft alone added one 1913 report.
        These transcriptions from Billboard on this website provide a bit more information. See http://www.circushistory.org/History/Billboard1911.htm and http://www.circushistory.org/History/BriefA.htm The Fulton History website also has hits for “L. H. Ranft” in Billboard issues for 1914-1918. In 1922 he signed on as equestrian director for Sam Solomon’s Solls Bros. Circus and Wild West. A more complete picture of the trade journal coverage about him could be obtained if you can access ProQuest’s Entertainment Industry Magazine Archive, which comprehensively covers all issues.
        The absence of other coverage of his circus between the obituary-given dates of 1907 and 1927 is not readily explainable. Ranft’s obituary in Billboard, March 19, 1955, page 48, online indicates his connection with society circus operations. These were not the conventional circus operations, but local “performer” recruitment and participation affairs that were sometimes staged as benefits, raising funds for various causes. As such, the conventional circus trade papers seldom commented upon them. Ranft’s operation may have been billed as a “Society Circus” or under another title that obscured his own name. You can search for “Society Circus,” but it brings up a variety of coverage, not all useful, and nothing naming Ranft. Some showmen included the word ”Society” in their titles, which complicates the issue to some degree.
        www.newspaperarchive.com provided a number of hits for Ranft’s 1924 Society Circus on carnival midways. It was surprising to find a 1936 flashback report of the passing of his overland circus through Cumberland, MD in 1916. It was headed to Ellerslie because it was “We’re too small for large towns,” according to the manager. Ranft’s show may have been to small to note, but the silence in so many years perhaps suggests and on again, off again operation. Fred Dahlinger Jr., Curator of Circus History, “The Ringling,” John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art, Sarasota, FL

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2742. Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey, 01 Jan 2009 - I am Cheri Whitehouse from Las Vegas, Nevada. I'd like any info on my Grandparents who had a horse show in I believe the 20's 30's and 40's. Tex and Gota Elmlund. I know he was in the fire in 1944. I was told he saved a burned little girl by carrying her in his arms out of the tent. I just learned he had serious problems after the fire. Mental breakdowns. He was supposed to be a renowned horseman and my mother has an extensive photo collection of the entire circus and performers including Wild West Show. Some are so large they are rolled into tubes, these include entire circus performers and all hands who worked the shows. These are so old I would be afraid to unroll unless a professional restorer was doing it. And who could restore these photos? Any info at all on my grandparents and photos would be greatly appreciated. At cherisrecipes@aol.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 02 Jan 2009 - Just off hand, it sounds like the photos in tubes are the old Ed Kelty photos. Many of these are worth good money. The Side Show performers in particular bring huge chunks of money. They will have a writing on the lower right corner that will say "Photo by Century, or Photo by E.J. kelty, Century, 74 W. 47th St., N.Y.C." Hope this helps. Bob Cline

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - Hello Cheri: I am a professional fine arts conservator with the Midwest Art Conservation Center in Minneapolis, MN, and I also am a circus memorabilia collector with specialized knowledge of the preservation, conservation and restoration of circus-related memorabilia. As luck would have it, I also have a home in Las Vegas. The Circus Fans Association of America will be holding their National Convention in Las Vegas at the Orleans from June 15-18 this summer, and besides myself, several other collectors, dealers, museum curators and etc. will be there. It would be a good opportunity for you to meet with some of us to show us the types of materials that you have, and I know we could give you some excellent advice for your collection and I can certainly speak to the “restoration” of your materials, especially regarding treatments to unroll large format photographs in the safest way possible. I can also suggest some other conservators that could do the work for you, but the closest photographic conservators to you would be in the Los Angeles area. Neil C. Cockerline, Director of Preservation Services, Midwest Art Conservation Center, www.preserveart.org

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2741. Van Amburgh Menagerie Co. 1875, 31 Dec 2008 - Van Amburgh Menagerie Company World of Wonder. Was wondering if you had heard of this circus/menagerie? Saw a letter from July 25, 1875 from a gentleman who was traveling with the band of people. Wanting to know what it was and what kind of work was to be had. Carolyn. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2740. John Marion, artist, 30 Dec 2008 - Hi, I am the great grandson of E J Hayden. I am just learning about him and would appreciate if you can point me into the right direction to find some of his art work. Thanks, Geoff Hayden. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 01 Jan 2009 - The response to query 2641 mentions the basic reference books that will get you started. Fred Dahlinger

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2739. RBBB 1956, 30 Dec 2008 - I need some information and more details concerning when the Ringling show struck it tents in Pittsburgh, Pa in 1956 and the tent was put up again I think for a Republican convention by Bill Hill, is this true? Would like to know more about the date set up again and when and where the Ringling tent was set up the VERY last time ever. Thanks circus historians, Harry Kingston. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 03 Jan 2009 - Regarding the tent being used at the Republican convention in 1956 - I doubt it - at least not the ENTIRE big top. The GOP Convention was held in San Francisco from Aug 20-23, 1956, and while it certainly could have made it to California in the weeks following the July 16 “last stand” in Pittsburgh, the political convention that re-nominated President Eisenhower was held at the famed “Cow Palace”, and it is my understanding that one of the reasons that in 1948 Ringling-Barnum had decided to abandon the canvas when in San Francisco and opt for the Cow Palace was that there was only one lot big enough to hold the big top and associated tents – and it was owned by the gas company and unavailable. I suppose it is possible that a portion of the big top – or maybe one of the other Ringling-Barnum tents – was put up in the Cow Palace parking lot to accommodate press or other operations associated with the convention – but maybe it was just a big tent! Harry’s question however brought up something else that I have wondered about for some time. Many years ago my father used to frequent a Tru-Value Hardware store on Florida’s Longboat Key. The owner of the store was a fellow named George Roane. Mr. Roane’s father was Al Roane, the former yacht captain for John Ringling in the 1920s – and a long-time Sarasota resident. I remember being in the hardware store one day about 1973 – talking about the Ringling’s etc, and George Roane mentioned that after the train arrived from Pittsburgh there was a suspicious fire at the winter quarters – and among the things lost was the big top canvas – which hadn’t yet been unloaded from the trip back to quarters. I have never seen anything about such a fire and have often wondered if the story was true – and if so whether anyone had any details about it. Does anyone have any knowledge of such a fire at the Ringling Winter Quarters during the summer of ’56? Chris Berry

    Reply: 04 Jan 2009 - Chris, I'm not sure about the fire part. However at the CHS convention this year was a table display with photos and pieces of the Big Top when it was in a blowdown in Geneva, NY on July 1st, 1956. The top was devastated. I'm sure I remember them saying the old top was hurriedly brought up from Sarasota. That eliminates one of the tents. Bob Cline

    Reply: 04 Jan 2009 - Am I the only one out here who remembers hearing the rumor that Oral Roberts had bought the RBBB big top? Ole Whitey

    Reply: 16 Jan 2009 - The late Bill Elbirn wrote a series of "Bandwagon" articles about the closure of RBBB's Sarasota quarters, the transfer to Venice and also the subsequent management of various vehicles from the tent operation. In VI, 3, page 19, [on-line at www.circushistory.org/Bandwagon/bw-1962May.htm] he wrote of a March 19, 1962 fire at Venice: "The result was that 16 wagons were destroyed and one rail car in which was stored the big top last used in 1956." I'm sure that Bill reported exactly what he'd been told, but the veracity of what he was told might be open to question.
        If you want to pursue the story further, I'd recommend reading Joe Bradbury's "White Tops" coverage of the 1956 RBBB tour, as well as a wonderful article that he wrote about the Sarasota quarters in that journal some years before. You might also scan through Henry North's family chronicle, "Circus Kings," which has just been re-issued. I would also recommend reading Richard Reynolds's two articles about the Venice quarters in "Bandwagon." These can all be located via the journal indexes on this website.
        It may have been RBBB practice to carry the prior year's big top on the show train, in the event of a loss. There had been about six to eight big top fires in circus history, not just the several well-known instances. One of the RBBB authorities may know the story on the practice and where on the train it was placed. Perhaps it was in one of the "stock" cars that also served as show storage, as had box cars years before? In one of the last RBBB seasons the prior year's big top may have been pressed into service because of distress of some type that occurred with the one then in use.
        There are also documents relating to the disposal of properties and equipment from the Sarasota quarters in the RBBB business records in the CWM library. They cover some of the dealings orchestrated under Art Concello by Bill Perry whereby ex-RBBB items were sold to other shows, showmen [a steel arena to Clyde Beatty's FL compound] and people and firms outside the business [Caterpillar tractors], including the sale of various pieces of canvas. Fred Dahlinger

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2738. Ringling Brothers Elephant Rider, 30 Dec 2008 - My Mother tells me that she was an elephant rider for a 6 month period w/ Ringling Brothers when she was 16 yrs old: "Princess Maralyna (sp?), Queen of the Arena", in the Madison Wisconsin area - this would have been sometime in the mid to late 1940's. Do you have any information on her, or (even better) pictures? Thank you - Julie Wallace. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 01 Jan 2009 - If your mother was with RBBB between 1938 and 1956, there will be an employment card for her in the RBBB business records in the CWM library. [Circus World Museum Parkinson Library] It will provide her hiring and departure date, position and rate of compensation, as well as next of kin and their address. Contact the archivist for a copy of the index card containing her employment information. If your mother was with RBBB when it was in the Madison, WI area, she might have been photographed by local attorney Sverre O. Braathen. His photography is now preserved in Milner Library, Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal. Fred Dahlinger

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2737. Willy Pantzer, 28 Dec 2008 - Hello I am the grandson of Willy Pantzer (of Willy Pantzer and his midgets). I have a good collection of photographs, however I feel sure that somewhere there must be old film of his act. If there is such film I would love to see it as I never saw the act. Thank for anyone that can help with more photo’s, memories, or indeed film of the act. Paul Littler. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2736. Jan Anderson, lion tamer, 28 Dec 2008 - I am looking for information on the ex lion tamer Jan Anderson and the tiger named Rosie Royal who was killed after an accident during which the trainer/tamer was injured. This has been around 35 year ago(?) Please help! jillyannecape@yahoo.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2735. Circus auction, Houston TX, 28 Dec 2008 - I am researching a story in an old newspaper, I think the Chicago Tribune of 1887, about a man named Buzzard that bought some animals and other assets from an auction of a circus traveling through the Houston, Texas area sometime after the Civil War. I would be appreciative if anyone could help me find out more about this or send me in some direction that might have some information. Thanks. lifeway2 at aol.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2734. Yacopis, 28 Dec 2008 - I am looking for any family member related to Roberto Yacopi, Alfredo, Victorio, Roger, Rosita, Maruja. He and his troupe used to present the trapezist show in the Royal Dumbar Circo in Ecuador, in the decade of the 50's. They were from Argentina. Also looking for Alfredo Yacopi Jr and his sister Aida, son and daughter of Alfredo and Rosita. Pls if you can get me in touch with any of them, I will be grateful for your kindness. My email is Gary 1942. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 01 Jan 2009 - Victorio Yacopi, the four somersaults flying of the troupe, past his last years in Argentina where he died in the 80. Their two sons live in the proximities of Buenos Aires City, one of them work in circuses for a time and then he takes away from the show. Cesar Ortega. fliaortega@netverk.com.ar

    Reply: 08 Feb 2009 - Dear Gary: Re: The Yacopis. I was with the circus and I am also looking for information of my families. I worked with the Yacopis. However I knew them as the Jacobis. I was a young child and I just loved Maruja. In fact I will have to look and see if I have some film (old) of me in the act of the Yacopis. Please e-mail me back . In fact if you have any photos or films of the BORZA family. The acts were called Nita and Peppi, and a trampoline act of Adriana and Charley. Please e-mail me and lets see if we can help each other out. Adriana and Charley were with RBBB from 1940 thru 1945 ( I see them listed on the roster for the 1945 tour) I am Charley’s daughter, Nita of Nita and Peppi also listed in the 1945 roster. I am looking for any films on either act. To my knowledge Adriana and Charley (Charlot in Europe) came from Europe. Can you tell me where I can look for photos even in a European site? Hope to hear from you. Thank you, Nita Borza Silber, nitasilber@earthlink.net

    Reply: 19 Nov 2009 - I am the niece to Alfredo's son. What info are you looking for? I am looking for info on the family if you have some to share? Nannyleo@aol.com

    Reply: 03 Sep 2012 - My grandfather from Germany settled in Peru (now deceased), Werner Proebster Von Woltersdorff in the 1950's was the animal doctor (veterinarian) from Royal Dumbar Circus (Center & South America tour) and in turn was the one who tamed mainly by the show of wild animals (elephants , lions, etc) in the company of his daughter (now my mother) Sigrid Proebster born in Peru. My grandfather from Germany Werner Proebster Von Woltersdorff (handle Dumbar animals) and his daughter (my mother from Peru) Sigrid Proebster working in Royal Dumbar Circus in period 1950's years in South America, read the note:
    http://books.google.com.pe/books?id=3h0EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA61&lpg=PA61
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    20dumbar%20circus%20werner%20proebster&f=false
    Greetings from Peru, Lucio Salazar Proebster

    Reply: 08 Jul 2013 - Hello, Gary, I am Rosita Yacopi's great niece. I have a wonderful photo of her, Alfredo, and Alfredo, Jr., also known as, Puchito, according to my mother, Nellie Figueroa Bas. Elvera Figueora (my mom's mother) was my grandmother and Rosita's sister. I don't think Aida was born at the time the photo was taken. My mother lived with them and took care of Aida when she was a baby when they were living in California. The Yacopi's moved back to Argentina when my mother was 18 years old. She is now 82 and did not move with them. Rosie (my mother called her) died in Argentina. Apparently, their son lives in the mid-west and Aida in Florida. I have never been in touch with them. I have however, spoken to Galo Ramirez, I believe Roberto's daughter's son. I'd be happy to scan the photo and send it to you. Best regards, Loretta Smith, Santa Clarita, California

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2733. Hort Campbell, 28 Dec 2008 - My husband has always told me that his uncle, Horton Campbell, owned one of the largest road shows in the world. He traveled by personal train, Hort Campbell did. My Husband's mother, Vera Hubbell Cummings, was a bareback rider in that circus (road show). This is everything I know. It doesn't appear to have been very large, if I can't even find it. Does anyone out there know anything about this show? Has anyone ever heard of Hort Campbell? I look forward to your reply - whenever. Thank you for considering this message. Mary Cummings. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2732. Circus, War Memorial Stadium, NY, 27 Dec 2008 - Back in the late 1940 or early 1950 I went to a circus at War Memorial stadium (indoor) in Buffalo New York. At that show a high wire act collapsed and I believe a man was killed. Do you have any information about a high wire accident in Buffalo New York around the late 40’ early 50’s? Butch Rodgers, Buffalo, New York, Butch998@verizon.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2731. William J. Levi, 26 Dec 2008 - I am looking for some information about my Great Grandfather William J. Levi. It has been told back through my family that at one time he was involved with Ringling Bros. & Barnum Bailey circus. He had what they called the tiniest Monkey in the world. We have a newspaper clipping about the monkey from Gadsden Ala., date June 22, 1947. If you have any information please let me know. Thank You, Shelley Geyer. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2730. John King, boss animal man, 25 Dec 2008 - Does anyone know anything about John King, boss animal man with the John Robinson Circus, 1875-80? He was killed by the elephant Chief, September 27, 1880 - crushed while unloading the elephant from a train car. I can find a fair amount of information about the elephant but little about the man. I realize that he was with the show such a short while so long ago. But I found a mention in an old newspaper of the circus band going to lay a wreath and play music as a tribute in 1901 - so he meant something to someone for people to visit his grave after 21 years. I know folks who are not visited after two. I would also really like to know if the John Robinson circus had a fund to bury workers or if they made a special effort for Mr. King (I do know that the circus donated his stone). Also, why was an image of an elephant placed on Mr. King's stone? I have read a lot of conflicting material about how elephants are viewed by circus personnel and am presently conflicted myself. What do you think? Thank you for your time and Happy Holidays. Kelley, Kelley.logan@gmail.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 26 Dec 2008 - I have read numerous articles of the actual event as covered at the time by searching on newspaperARCHIVE.com. The New York Clipper was the trade journal at the time concerning the Outdoor entertainment world. You might try to find a copy of the New York Clipper near you to look at or obtain through an interlibrary loan. Type in Worldcat and then the NY Clipper and it should give you a list of institutions that have a copy. The show placing a memorial stone or monument has also been documented by several shows over the years for employees that were killed while with the show so that particular angle is not unusual either. Bob Cline

    Reply: 31 Dec 2008 - Thank you for your response to my interest in John King, Mr. Cline. I had found newspaperARCHIVE.com, but did not know about the NY Clipper. I do cemetery research, looking up stone cutters, stones, the meanings behind the images chosen, just about anything really that is part of why the grave marker is the way it is, in the place it is. In the last few years, I have found myself drifting into a specialization in circus gravemarkers as they were an underrepresented group in gravestone/ marker research. So, I am also pleased to learn that shows regularly donate markers for those who were killed while with the show; I had thought that the case as I had seen many stones with donation information on them and it is nice to have that information confirmed by a circus historian - you see, I am not really looking for the unusual angle so much as the usual. Thanks again. Kelley

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - Kelley: There are a few cemeteries in the USA that have showmen’s sections that you should look into. One of the largest is in Hugo, Oklahoma and the section there is aptly titled “Showmen’s Rest.” There are many markers there that have carvings related to the careers of the people buried beneath them. Some have elephant carvings, while others have everything from lions & tigers to horses to clowns. I would surmise that there are few stone carvers that specialize in circus subjects, but any skilled carver could probably come up with an appropriate carving of most any animal or other figure that was ordered. Interestingly, the daughter of Judy Tomaini, who was billed as the Half-girl and whose husband was the Giant Al Tomaini, is a stone carver who does specialized circus grave markers. I know a few years ago that a group of circus fans collected money to have a grave marker made for a famous aerialist named Mickey King whose grave did not have a stone. Ms. Tomaini was hired to produce the stone and the finished example included a portrait of Miss King on a trapeze carved in granite and then fully colored. It was a beautiful tribute to a real circus star! Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: 18 Jan 2009 - Thank you Mr. Cockerline for your reply. I live in Oklahoma, so Hugo was the 1st of the Showmen's Rests that I researched. The folks in Hugo are very kind and as to gravestone carvers - well, some don't do animals as well as others. It is a gift; one must have a feel both for the stone AND the animal one is trying to depict, I guess. However, I am excited to learn about Mickey King's stone. I had read of her in the book Circus Bodies and am happy that she has now such a fine sounding marker. Do you know of any photos of it? in magazines or the web? I don't think I'll be able to get to Park Hill Cemetery in Bloomington, Ill. anytime soon to visit Miss King and would really like to see her gravestone as it sounds wonderful. Thank you so much for letting me know it exists, though. I have it down now on my map and will someday get around to seeing it. Kelley

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2729. Geraldine Plunkett, 22 Dec 2008 - I was wondering if anyone has any information on a Geraldine Plunkett she was a trapeze artist. She is the mother of my half brother (Dewayne I think). Our father has died and I would like to find her or Dewayne Plunkett to let them know. I do not know much more than that only that the Plunketts were all trapeze artists and they were in the area of Hamlet Nebraska sometime in 1955 or 1956. if anyone can tell me anything about Geraldine Plunkett I would be forever grateful. Thank you, Dru Ann Paul, tiger9657@msn.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - If I am not mistaken, the Plunkett’s were best known for their trampoline act, rather than for trapeze. The Plunkett Trampoline Act worked through the 1970s and into the 1980s. The Plunkett Family that I am referring to were from Texas and they had several sons. One of them, James Plunkett was a tightwire star who took over the Great Hubert Castle’s Act taught directly to him by Mr. Castle. The Plunketts appeared regularly with the Hubert Castle Circus, as well as many other shows. James Plunkett currently owns the James Christy Cole Circus based out of Texas, which regularly produces the Omaha Shrine Circus. Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: 22 Apr 2012 - I have written a little story on facebook which I will enclose with this e-mail. This was about the Plunkett's coming to Hayes Center NE in the early 1950. You had written that they were in the Hamlet NB area in '55 or '56. I really would be interested in knowing more about the Plunkitts and if you have any information I would be most grateful in hearing it. Lee Cox, Omaha NE

    Snippet Nine Sports By Lee
        In the small village of Hayes Center, NE the biggest event was community sports. There was no outdoor lights to the sporting events back then so all the home outdoor events were played in the afternoon. As small children, most of the sports were not that interesting and we were present only because our parents liked the sports or they knew someone that was playing on the team. It never seamed to me that hitting or throwing a ball was that great of an accomplishment; nor was the ability to run faster than other people since that ability was what you were born with. So, if the question was asked, and it seemed that it often was: who was the best athlete that you ever saw in our little dusty town?
        To me this happened in a tent set up at the fairgrounds; maybe in 1950 or so. I remember going to this event in this huge tent that had lights inside. All the seats were taken and once the show started everyone was mesmerized by the acrobats performing in perfect harmony. They were doing feats one could well imagined had taken years to perfect; and were trained as small children to eventually perform these unrealistic difficult athletic performances. These performers were a family of very gifted and highly trained professionals. I was taken by the costumes the ladies and the men wore and the ease in which they walked and spoke.
        My memory is a little faded after more than 60 years; but if you were to ask me who the best athletes I ever saw in Hayes Center were, it would certainly be the Plunketts.

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2728. Circus (Strasburger?), 22 Dec 2008 - ik wilde graag infromatie van het circus elli belli strasburger 1960 ik werkte daar toen bij ikasisterden toen wollfie tronk de domteur toen en werkten ook in het retorant van kees timmer graag een bericht van jeullie F c van oers [Attempted translation: I wanted worked eager infromatie of the circus elli belli strasburger 1960 I that then by ikasisterden then wollfie tronk the domteur then and worked also in the retorant of kees build gladly a message of jeullie F c of bog ore]. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 23 Dec 2008 - Zoek op www. circusmuseum.nl op “strassburger” en vul in “1960” in het daarvoor bedoelde vak. U krijgt 9 afbeeldingen. Translation: On www.circusmuseum.nl/eng you will find 9 images of circus Strassburger in 1960.
        On behalf of the board of directors of the foundation responsible for www.circusmuseum.nl/eng I wish ms. Judy Griffin and all the visitors of this board a merry Christmas and a happy new year. Herman Voogd

    Reply: 27 Dec 2008 - Wölfi Trunk en zijn vrouw Ginele Strassburger werken en wonen in Safari Park Stuckenbruck (Duitsland). Kees en Mien Timmers zijn allebei overleden. Wat zou je nog meer willen weten? Charly Ross. [Attempted translation: Wölfi Trunk and his wife Ginele Strasbourg Burger live and work in Safari Park Stuck Bruck (Germany). Kees and Mien Timmers are both deceased. What would you like to know more?]

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2727. Thanks and Happy Holidays, 20 Dec 2008 - I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. It has been a pleasure to have this discussion board available to us. I want to particularly Thank Judy Griffin for all she has done. She keeps this website up and running on a daily basis. If anyone knows anything about website design, I'm sure she would love to hear from you as she has a full plate. I Thank all my colleagues who have graciously offered information and directions to go in my research on the Campbell Bros. Circus. I also Thank Mr. Fred Dahlinger Jr. and Mr. Richard Reynolds III who have been my mentors in becoming a Circus Historian, in documenting the tiniest details and in showing me how to become a better author. Many Thanks go out to Mr. Fred Pfening Jr. who has single-handedly kept the Bandwagon rolling for all these years. Happy Holidays to all. Bob Cline. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2726. Sascha the Great, 20 Dec 2008 - I am wondering if anyone has any information on a former Ringling Brothers employee whose real name was Paul Anderson but who appeared as Sascha the Great in an act that involved lifting things with his hair. Thank you, Sabre Gilmartin. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2725. Great show promotion, 20 Dec 2008 - Today I had the privilege of attending a reading of the Dr. Seuss book, "If I Ran the Circus". Dave and Cherie Gregg of RBB&B present the show. Dave, an Auguste and Cherie a precious White face clown are GREAT. The show promotes the circus. Here in Orlando we get the Red unit with the "ZING, ZANG, ZOOM" on Jan 15 - 19. If any one sees an advertisement for the Greggs, This is a must see. Primarily for children, but all the adults enjoyed the presentation. (I am 66) For information, the blue unit is in Orlando for the "winter" stand down. A check of the consist has one additional car that was not in January consist. Car 42016 was added between 41305 & 42105 (178 & 179 ). Terry. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2724. Evelyn Currie, 20 Dec 2008 - I have written an authorized biography of Evelyn Currie, Lion and Tiger tamer, who was with Ringling Brothers, Hammid Morris, and several Shrine Circuses. She also owned a rare Tiglon for 20 years. I have pictures, news articles, correspondence, and audio tapes of Evelyn telling me her entire life story, not just her circus life. Prior to her circus life, Evelyn had a life that included the Mafia, prison, carnival owner, actress, dancer/stripper, and much more. I am the only person who has proof af her entire life. The book is finished, and I am looking for a publisher and or agent. Contact me at omadsen@bresnan.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - I think you mean the Hamid Morton Circus. Before you try to find a publisher, you’d better make sure you do some more fact checking and get the proper spellings of names that may appear in your book. There is nothing worse than mistakes that come from books purportedly to be first-hand accounts of the circus. Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: 17 Aug 2011 - I would love to read this book when it is published. Evelyn was married to my uncle Harry from Prince Edward Island. Donna.

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2723. Presidential election and George W. Hall, 19 Dec 2008 - Given the extensive news coverage of the 2008 elections, thought some of the regular viewers of this page might enjoy this item on the presidential election 120 years ago. Judy Griffin.
    "George W. Hall, popularly known as 'Popcorn George,' and one of the most celebrated Southern showmen, is undergoing trial at Memphis, Tenn., charged with illegal voting at the last Presidential election, owing to his uncertain abiding place. The defendant owns property at Memphis, and in many other cities in various states." - New York Clipper, February 22, 1890, p. 829.



2722. Card circus, 18 Dec 2008 - I am interested in finding out about a circus that my family owned in the 1930's. Their names were Card. It was a small circus that traveled around New england and originated in Rhode Island. Everyone who knew anything about this circus is dead and I would be interested in finding out anything I can about it. Thank you, Linda Ilgen, Hollywood, FL. E-mail: Michael33021@peoplepc.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 18 Dec 2008 - According to Parkinson's "Directory of American Circuses," The R. T. Card Dog & Pony Shows was out in 1934; the Card Bros. Circus in 1935-1936. Both owned by Randall T. Card. There is an article on the show and the R. T. Card: "Card Bros. Circus, Short Sketches of Former Shows," Joseph T. Bradbury, pp. 17-21. Bandwagon, Vol. 33, No. 5 (Sep-Oct), 1989. Click on Bandwagon on the navigation bar and scroll down to find out how to order this back issue. - Judy Griffin

    Reply: 24 Dec 2008 - Hi Linda, The only two circuses that I am aware of that were based out of Rhode Island, my home state, were Lincoln Bros. Circus, and Circus America. Linclon Bros was a small overland wagon show that I guess was out in the early part of the last century. It may have gotten it's name from Lincoln, RI. Circus America was based out of Cranston, RI for a while in the 1990's and did indoor shrine dates and also had a European style big top that they toured with. Jim Cole

    Reply: 21 Oct 2012 - Regarding the R.T. Card dog and pony show circus, Randall T. Card was my grandfather. My father, George L. Card, only son of Randall T., often spoke of this show and his exploits with the circus. His duties aside from being ringmaster were also responsibility for doing the booking. It is my understanding the show broke up sometime in the late 1930's when my grandfather was swindled by potential buyers. I do have in my possession some photos of the circus. My father passed in 1996 upon reaching the age of 100 yrs. Respectfully, Doris R. Jervis

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2721. Riverside Printing, Milwaukee, 17 Dec 2008 - I would like to know years of operation of Riverside Printing in Milwaukee. As they turned out some beautiful posters in there day and we have some in our collections today. Then I was told Central printing got what was left over and sold many to collectors way back. I know Christy Bros used Riverside. So anything you want to add please do, always like circus history. ColeBrosFan at aol.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 18 Dec 2008 - Hello Harry, There is a great book called "The Color Explosion" written by Jay T. Last. Fellow CHS member Neil Cockerline turned me on to it. This is NOT a circus book but it is a wonderful history of the printing process through the ages. It includes many fine images including some circus printings. It also gives a short history on the printers. This book gives Riverside Printing Co. as beginning in 1893 and closing in 1937. The owners listed are J.G. Dreutzer and P.J. Shannon. That's all it has to offer. Bob Cline

    Reply: 19 Dec 2008 - The “Riverside Print. Co.” was established about 1870 with a facility near the corner of Wisconsin and Broadway in Milwaukee, and later with offices in Chicago. The firm was originally operated by a British immigrant named George Richardson. By the early 20th century, Riverside advertised printing, engraving, electrotyping, zinc etching and bookbinding services as well as lithography. While Riverside was known as a large book printer, as you mention the circus lithography produced by its artists was first rate. Several circuses used Riverside to produce terrific posters – including great artwork for Christy Bros and ML Clark and Sons (in the 1920s), along with wild west shows such as Buffalo Ranch and Tiger Bill. In the early days of the silent movies the Riverside printing house also produced posters for such classics as D.W. Griffith’s “Birth of a Nation”. In 1902 Riverside was one of several show print companies (including Courier, Erie and Enquirer) that formed the “Poster Printers Association” at a meeting in Buffalo, New York. Perhaps another reader can tell the story of Riverside’s demise – but it appears to have stopped producing circus posters in the mid 1930s – with some of its last circus posters being very nice stock images produced for Walter L. Main, Seils Sterling, Rice Bros and Haag Bros. Chris Berry, circusposters@gmail.com

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - I have a large number of Riverside posters that I bought in a trunk in Grad School during a sidewalk sale in Cooperstown, NY back in 1986. One thing is for sure, the Company certainly rehashed posters for years and years. I have several for the 1931 Walter L. Main Show, which have pasted over titles as well as titles that have been cut off the tops of the pictorials and new “Main” titles attached. I have several posters that were rehashed by Honest Bill Newton’s Shows, where his various titles were pasted over the Campbell Bros. Circus title from the 20s. Even though most of these show titles that I have were from the 1930s, the pictorials are from much (decades?) earlier. One of the sheets has a portrait of Buffalo Bill Cody (without any Buffalo Bill title) that is pasted over with “Honest Bill in Person”. Another rather curious pictorial has a replica image of Annie Oakley holding a rifle in the midst of a trained dog act. Most of the images of wild animal trainers are certainly from the later 19th century, so there must have been stacks and stacks of these images that Riverside was still using 30 to 40 years later. Neil C. Cockerline

    Reply: 23 Jul 2009 - First of all let me thank all of you personally,especially Chris Berry. Like you mentioned, I have one of the famous circus posters titled "Buffalo Ranch Real Wild West". I love my new poster that has such captions of pictures as "Equestian Foot Ball", "The Real Indian War Dance", and such comments on the bottom of the poster as "A Lesson In The History of Pioneer Days" and "Games of The Real Red Men Camelraces". Now I'm just guessing,and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the poster is referring to the "Buffalo Ranch" that Chris referred to. I'm just so glad that I got this poster because it has opened me up to so much learning. In addition to learning about Riverside Co. recently since visiting this wonderful city, I also learned that the "Buffalo Ranch Wild West" show belonged to a J. A. Jones in 1910 who operated the show as "Jones Bros. Buffalo Ranch Wild West Show". Later, I learned, after just one season Jones sold his some 29 horses, cars, wagons etc. to a Thomas Wiedemann on November 12, 1910. In 1911 Wiedemann used this equipment to start a Wild West Show called "The Kit Carson Buffalo Ranch Wild West Show". In 1912 the Kit Carson show was on 17 cars, 1 advance car, 5 stocks, 5 coaches, and 6 flats. After the 1913 season the show didn't go back to Wiedemann's headquarters in Harrisburg, Ill. But wintered in Birmingham, Alabama, and opened the 1914 season in the South. The source I read from said the show had a tendency to be very rough. Fights were reported to be part of backstage life. Some say that lifestyle was what finally closed the show. On Friday, October 23, 1914 at Harlan, Kentucky, the show was driven out of town by angered locals, and the next day, Oct. 24 at Barboursville, Kentucky creditors halted the picture, closed the show, and had it shipped to the U.S. Printing & Litho. Co. plant at Cincinnati, Ohio where the news was spread around that the show was going to be auctioned off on March 20,1915 except for 12 wagons and 5 cars that were still stored at Harrisburg,but even these couldn't be stopped from sale, they were to be sold by description at the auction. The Kit Carson property went for very cheap. Dodson Carival got the calliope pole wagon, stage coach, 4 baggage wagons, blacksmith wagon, 2 tableaux, a stringer wagon, and a band wagon. J. A. Jones, Harry Hill(Wild West), and Rice & Dore got some other equipment. Reports also said that "outsiders" got among other things such as the ticket wagon, and a tableaux wagon.
        Even if my poster is not from this information packed circus, it is still a very colorful, and beautiful poster. If anybody has info on another circus titled "Buffalo Ranch Real Wild West" I would love to hear about it as the show I reported on (Kit Carson's Buffalo Ranch Wild West Show) lacked the word "Real", and every historian worth their salt knows that one word could be the difference between one show and another, so PLEASE email any additional information you have to my personal E-Mail address: flabbychucs@gmail.com. And again Thank You, Chris and all the others, Wyatt Williams

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2720. Starits Circus, 17 Dec 2008 - I am looking for any information on a Starits Circus that was based in West Nyack, NY and traveled up and down the east coast in the early 1900's. I have old family pictures of ancestors from the circus but can not find any info on the circus itself. Any info would be greatly appreciated. David Iler, ilerdavid@yahoo.com, Charlotte, NC. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 17 Dec 2008 - Might this be the Starrett's circus, Howard Starrett, proprietor? Judy Griffin

    Reply: 18 Dec 2008 - Howard Starrett wrote on August 16, 1905 from Walden, New York that he had an engagement to play at Westchester, New York. The advance sale was large and was looking for another middle piece for his tent and ten lengths of seats. He noted " I am the youngest & most successful showman in the business. I have the very best of horses, ponies, dogs & monkeys & the brightest little show on the road." On Aug. 24, 1905 the tent dealer noted that he had shipped the seats canvas and poles to Westchester, N.Y. Starrett then wrote from Westchester, New York on Sept. 8, 1905 that he was returning the balance of the sidewall, seats, jacks, and stringers that he rented. The freight bill was sent to his home address 171 Clermont Ave. Brooklyn, N.Y. He continued saying "I have closed my circus season here, which has been very successful. I have engaged for the next five weeks to show my horses, poneys, dogs, & monkeys at fairs as grand stand attractions". This dog & pony show was out in 1905 -1906, and it appears that he was doing sponsored dates as most shows did not have an advance sale. As he was in need of more canvas and seats, it is a very good chance that he was sponsored as opposed to being a show that moved every day. You might check the Billboard of New York Clipper for additional route information. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection.

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2719. Carter Family, high wire, 16 Dec 2008 - Sometime in the 1930 - 1940's there was a High Wire act called the Carter Family. The female in the act was killed. Does any one have any information on this family act? P. Jaquay, hjaquay@twcny.rr.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 17 Dec 2008 - Looking for information about the Carter Family, High Wire artists from the 30's and 40's. Paul Pelon.

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2718. Edgar Boone's circuses, 14 Dec 2008 - Greeting from the UK. Looking through the list of circus's I can't find any reference to "the Great Boone Railroad Shows and trained animal arena" or "Boone's Monster Aggregation"? The life and times of Colonel Edgar Daniel Boone has become my speciality over the last couple of years... and if you would like a few minor references to his "circus" Mid 1894 - 1896 I will gladly share them with you? Regards, Paul Griffiths, Uttoxeter, Staffordshire UK. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 15 Dec 2008 - Information I found on Boone was emailed to Paul directly. J. Griffin

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2717. Penman and Millar, 14 Dec 2008 - Still looking for information on my Great Uncle Bill or Will Millar and his partner Bill Penman. It is possible they toured the USA with Hannefords Circus in 1910, and I have a photo of them supposedly taken on 28 January 1910 at Redondo Beach, California at that time. Other notes say that they could have been a high wire act and that Bill Millar fell from the wire and broke his knee. After the accident they became clowns and strongmen and were known as the Gymnastic Messenger Boys. Stuart Macleod. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2716. Hattie Childs, 14 Dec 2008 - Seeking information about a woman named Harriet "Hattie" Childs who joined the Buffalo Bill Circus after 1884. She was born in 1867 in Brooklyn, New York. Her father was Henry Childs, an immigrant from England to NY; he died in 1875. Her mother was Jessie Martin Childs, an immigrant from Scotland to NY; she died in 1884. Hattie had four brothers: Albert, Henry, Ariel/Earl, & Ambrose who were all young. It is believed Harriet or Hattie was put on the Orphan Train west with her siblings. Her brothers found her sometime after 1884 when she was working in the Buffalo Bill Circus but they were not reunited for some reason. Thank you for any help. Brenda H. Reed. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2715. Baby Frances, fat lady, 12 Dec 2008 - I am looking for information on Frances Josephine Voges aka "Baby Frances." She was the fat lady of a circus in California, I believe, in the mid-1960s. I would appreciation any information you have. Thank you, Diane. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 30 Apr 2009 - Josephine died in 1978. You can view an obituary here (Google news archives): http://news.google.com/newspapers?
    id=DyoLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tFEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5242,3179643&dq=baby-frances

    Reply: 09 June 2009 - What would you like to know about her. She was from tampa florida she died I think around the mid 1980's. I know her family very well and can put you in touch with them if you want further information. Lee

    Reply: 01 Aug 2009 - Baby Frances Hope Voges traveled with Royal American shows thru the 60s all across the US. She passed May 6 1978 after a battle with pnuemonia and a heart attack. She was my grandmother. I would b glad to answer any questions about her to the best of my knowledge and share pictures with all. I have a ton of pictures of her and our family. Thank you for remembering her, sincerly, terry ruben

    Reply: 17 Oct 2010 - I have some information about her in my recently-published book, A Peculiar Tribe of People. www.peculiartribe.com

    Reply: 15 Oct 2013 - Baby Frances was a friend of mine. She passed away May 6, 1978. Age 57. For further information Email me. calbambi@gmail.com

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2714. Larry & Cora Davis, 09 Dec 2008 - Looking for my 1st cousins Larry Davis supt trainer of elephants and his wife Cora Bailey Davis trapeze artist. Regards, Peter Shaer, Sudbury, MA, Cher37@comcast.net. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 10 Dec 2008 - If you'll look over Buckles Blog at http://bucklesw.blogspot.com you'll find some writings about Larry Davis. I'm sure you are aware that Mr. Davis was in charge of the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey elephant herds in 1936, 1937, and 1938. Bob Cline

    Reply: 11 Dec 2008 - Thank you so much for this information- any more tidbits would be great. God Bless. Regards, Peter Shaer

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2713. Penman and Millar, trapeze act, 08 Dec 2008 - Can anyone help me with information on a trapeze act called Penman and Millar. They were both Scottish, and apparently worked with the Paris International Circus probably in the 1920s, given that Bill Millar was born in 1880 and died in 1948. Bill Millar was the high flier, and reportedly missed a catch and injured himself on the edge of the net. After that, the pair became strongmen and comedians. Stuart Macleod. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2712. Bajamuseum, 08 Dec 2008 - Does anyone have Bajamuseum memorbilia? A circus long ago from Alsenborn, Germany. Thanks, Johann. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2711. Great Eastern 1902, 1906, 07 Dec 2008 - I realize that a number of circuses/shows used Great Eastern in their title. However, I ran into two items for which I have not yet found more information. I will be checking at the Circus World Museum library in January. Judy Griffin
    Jas. H. Smith, proprietor of the Great Eastern Show, died here Sunday, May 4, of blood poisoning. [Kansas City, Missouri] New York Clipper, May 17, 1902, p. 272. Unsure if this was a circus but Parkinson's Directory lists a Great Eastern Circus for 1902.
    Mansfield's Great Eastern, W. J. Mansfield. Mansfield Bros., proprietors. New York NY Clipper, July 7, 1906, p. 532. Is listed in Sturtevant. Question. Name, email address. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 08 Dec 2008 - Since Jas. Smith died in early May 1902 they may have been referring to the 1901 Great Eastern Railroad Shows and Columbian Exposition. The 1901 show was in Nebraska & Colorado in May, July in Idaho, South Dakota in Aug. & Sept., Alabama in Oct., Nov. in La. & Texas in Dec. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection

    Reply: 08 Dec 2008 - Thanks! Judy

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2710. Princess Corita or Cora, 05 Dec 2008 - I have a question regarding a side show performer (midget) whose stage name was Princess Corita or Cora? She was born in Huntsville, Ontario and performed with Barnum and Bailey sometime between 1900 and 1960? I was told that the street that I now live on (Cora Street) was named after her. Is there any information that you can send me about her, her stage name and years of performance who be great! Jim/Kristen Murphy, 4murphys@sympatico.ca. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2709. Razzore Circus, 03 Dec 2008 - One of my earliest memories is of a performance of the Razzore Circus (one of the best Latin American circuses) in Cuba. I will never forget the midget clowns (my father told me their names, which I remember, but I do not know if he made them up). Tragically, the ship in which the Razzore was travelling sank, and there were very few survivors. Emilio Razzore’s wife and children drowned along with the others. Emilio Razzore was not on board. I presumed the midget clowns died as well.
    Now here are my questions. I find contradictory information as to the date of the shipwreck. I found the dates of 1942, 1946 and 1948 in various Internet articles. Of these, only 1948 is possible if I saw it, as I would have been three if indeed I saw it shortly before the tragedy. But I recently came across a message from somebody, referring to the Razzore in 1953. So Emilio Razzore may have restored his circus afterwards. Depending on the dates, I may have seen the restored circus and not the one that sank. And the midget clowns may not have drowned after all.
    Can anybody enlighten me? When was the sinking of the Razzore’s ship? Was the circus restored and if so what years thereafter did it perform? Did it return to Cuba? At least one version has the shipwreck on the trip from Cuba to Venezuela. Has anybody ever seen any reference to the midget clowns of the Razzore? Pedro Saavedra, Kensington, Maryland, vatecubano@yahoo.com. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 03 Dec 2008 - I found a number of articles on the shipwreck on newspaperarchives.com, all dated 1948. I put two articles on this website, one from 1949 about Emilio's return to the circus business. Take a look: www.circushistory.org/History/BriefO.htm#R. Judy Griffin

    Reply: 04 Dec 2008 - That answers most of my questions. I still, however, do not know if I saw the old Razzore or the new Razzore, and if the clowns I saw perished in the sinking of the Euzkera. The three I recall were dwarves sometimes acting their size and sometimes with a fake head that another clown would bump off his shoulders. My father told me their names were "Tapita" (Little Cap) "Tapón" (Big Cap or Plug) and "Corcho", but I figure that there is a 50-50 chance that my father made the names up. If any account of the dwarf clowns for the old or new Razzore existed, that would pinpoint how old I was and which version I saw. Pedro Saavedra

    Reply: 23 May 2009 - me gustaría saber si el circo Razzore fue reconstruido después del naufragio en 1948, y si se presentó en Venezuela durante los años 40. Agradezco cualquier información para una novela que estoy escribiendo. Gracias de nuevo, Michaelle. [attempted translation: I wonder if the circus Razzore was rebuilt after the wreck in 1948, and was made in Venezuela during the 40s. I appreciate any information for a novel I'm writing. Thanks again, Michaelle.]

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2708. Movie, 03 Dec 2008 - I am looking for a movie that had a circus theme where the wife and kids die around Christmas time. Its a pretty old movie but I can't recall the name or anything. Can someone help? Anglea Motts. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2707. Cooper Brothers circa 1934, 01 Dec 2008 - Looking for info. Cooper Brothers Circus circa 1934? This was a 2 car circus "gilly." Any information appreciated. Thanks, Richard Fisher. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 03 Dec 2008 - The Bandwagon carried a multiple piece article on the Cooper Bros. back in 1994. My aunt and uncle were on the show. Bob Cline [Nov-Dec 1993; Jan-Feb & Mar-Apr 1994, click on Bandwagon on the navigation bar and scroll down for information on ordering back issues - J. Griffin]

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2706. Bates, giants, 01 Dec 2008 - Good morning, I am a writer of children's books. I am currently researching the lives of giants Anna Bates (née Swan) and Martin van Buren Bates. I am looking for exhibition posters of both while in the employ of the P. T. Barnum and the W.W. Cole Circus. Would anyone happen to have visuals that I might use for illustration purposes for my book. Best, Anne Renaud. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 10 Jan 2009 - I have some digital images but they are not at high resolution. Email me if interested: tom@quasi-modo.net

    Reply: 15 Jan 2009 - There is a book that was published on the Giants Bates by a small historical association from as I recall, Newfoundland in Canada. Martin Bates was originally from Newfoundland. I bought one either on eBay or on Amazon.com. The book is illustrated with various photographs and other memorabilia that may be of interest to you. Try a google search and you probably can come up with the book. Neil C. Cockerline

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2705. American Fliers act, 30 Nov 2008 - I am looking for information on the American Fliers act that worked with the Pollack Brothers Circus and the Russell Brothers Circus in 1939-41. They were booked by Marin Mammad (sp). The family name was Croutcher. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated by the family. John French. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2704. Flying Wallendas, Flint MI, 29 Nov 2008 - I was wondering if you could find out if the Flying Wallendas ever performed their high wire act in a circus tent in Flint, Michigan sometime in the 1950's. I do not know which specific year it might have been, but know it must have been in the 50's. Thank You, Ed & Donna Collins. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 03 Dec 2008 - The official program and daily magazine of the Clyde Beatty Circus in 1953 listed Display # 25 - Danger Daring Disregarded - The Clyde Beatty Circus presents the largest and most sensational high wire act of all time - THE GREAT WALLENDAS. The show played under canvas in Flint, Michigan August 30, 1953. The 1964 Clyde Beatty-Cole Bros. Circus magazine and program listed under Display # 4 - High in the Dome of the Big Top - Carla Wallenda and Her High-Wire Troupe - A wisp of feminity who skirts eternity. The show played in Flint, Michigan August 12, 1964. Ted Bowman Circus Route Collection

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2703. Rodgers Bros., 29 Nov 2008 - Anyone have any information on the Rodgers Bros. Circus? Bob Albright, Centerville, Indiana. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 29 Nov 2008 - Do you mean Rogers Bros., 1947-1953, Si Rubens, proprietor? If so, there is information on the Rogers Bros. circus. Click on History on the navigation bar, then on Circuses, 1836-1940s, then on O-R. - Judy Griffin

    Reply: 06 Dec 2008 - Thank you for your reply. I will go to that site & check it out. Bob

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2702. Strongman Arturo, 28 Nov 2008 - Hi there, my friend is searching for information on a "Strongman" who lifted two mules or oxen from a yoke on his neck and shoulders. Probably, west coast. We believe his name to be Arturo Amaral? Sometime in the mid 1800's to early 1900's? He was from the Azores, Portugal. He came to America by way of Panama on a whaling ship and jumped ship in San Francisco with his brother. Not sure at the moment what the brother's name is. Can you help us? Thank you so much for your vested time and interest. Sincerely, Stacy Czerny. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

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2701. Mitchell's Trevelion or Mitchell's Pavilion, 27 Nov 2008 - I am searching for information on a traveling circus in WV named either Mitchell's Trevilion or Mitchell's Pavilion. I am interested on the timeframe this circus existed, the area where it traveled, types of acts performed, the size of the circus, or any other facts about the circus. I have a picture of this circus and it has a date on the back of it 1898. I believe my great grandfather, Cyrus Mitchell owned the circus and my grandfather, Harvey L. Mitchell was a performer in the circus. I believe they lived in Clarksburg, WV. When my grandmother, Lettie Lowther Mitchell married Harvey Mitchell, I believe she and her family provided music for the circus. My name is Linda Westfall and I live in Williamsburg, VA. My e-mail address is lwestf@cox.net. Any help is appreciated. Reply to this message, replies go to this board, not to the message sender.

    Reply: 28 Nov 2008 - Linda, information on Mitchell's Pavilion was sent to your email adddress. Judy Griffin

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